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Editors Wikipediocrats will tolerate

Post by AndrewForson » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:06 pm

An interesting discussion about the "anyone" in the "encyclopaedia that anyone can edit". WO regulars approve of the notion that "anyone" does not include people who are sympathetic to Nazism. I look forward to seeing whether they will take the same view about, say, people sympathetic to Stalinism. After all, one was a murderous dictatorial system that massacred millions of people, including Jews, in the cause of creating a new and better type of human being and the aggrandisement of their own country -- and the other was a murderous dictatorial system that massacred millions of people, including Jews, in the cause of creating a new and better type of human being and the aggrandisement of their own country.

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Re: Editors Wikipediocrats will tolerate

Post by Jaguar » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:20 pm

There are a few userboxes which identify users as Stalinists or Marxist-Leninists (these ones for example), but none which advocate Nazism or fascism in general. I don't know where these double standards come from.

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Re: Editors Wikipediocrats will tolerate

Post by Graaf Statler » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:09 am

If I look to the Dutch cabal what is for years in in power I notice tree main streams.

Number one is related to D66, you can compere them with leftish American democrats. Close connected to university's and education in general, and the environment is important for them, but only with there mouth. Professors, judges, intellectuals are many times involved in this party. The party is pro EU, and is very, very attentive for pedants, people who have not the siltiest idea what is going on in our society, and who are living under there one glass dome. It's most times the type who think it is a great idea if a plumber went to his work by train, this for the environment, or buys a ecologic van for 80.000 euro. They absolute believe in the good faith of the other, because there complet social surrounding is the same kind of people. Most times they urn a lot of money, but have no idea how "common people" are living and how they have to fight for every euro. They simpel don't understand there is a world outside there one

Number two. This is a group related to The Pirate party, Dutch: De piratenpartij en the The Socialist Party, Dutch: Socialistische Partij, in shot SP.
The Pirate party is a revolutionair party with hardly any voters (30.000) who is against copyright and what is extreem leftish. The SP is a formal Maoist party what became slowly salonfähig, political accepted. They left there most extreem political views, and changed them for more pragmatic ideas, but still there goal is to change The Netherlands is a socialistic state, even more than it already is. They want to reform the complete society to a kind of a modern communistic state.
The Greek SYRIZA (Varoufakis) is it's sister party. The party contains anything, from extreme leftish persons till pragmatic socialistic persons who are rather good politicians.

Number three. A group of modern feminists, originating out of this three groups, who also are living under a glass dome. They have no idea how "common woman" are thinking, how they are living, and how there life looks. They take there own most times very happy and lucky life as there standard, and have developed a "modern feminism" what is so far from the "common people", including most of the intellectual 'common woman", that it will never, ever fly in The Netherlands.

They all hate everything and everyone what is not belonging to there body of thoughts. They are complete intolerant to others. There view on the world is the only right one, and who doesn't adopt it is the enemy and has to be eliminated. They are the future, and they are going to create a new, better world, and because of that every means is lawful.

(Aanvullingen en verbeteringen zijn welkom. Ook stellingname tegen mijn stelling dat de gemiddelde D66-Groenlinkser (is ongeveer hetzelfde) erg voor het milieu is, maar wel minstens twee vliegreizen per jaar maakt, een 30 jaar oude Volvo heeft, een kast van aan huis wat energie vreet heeft, maar wel zwaar gesubsidieerde zonnepanelen op zijn dak die de gewone man zich niet kan permitteren dus echt wel wat aan het milieu doet hoor!)
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Re: Editors Wikipediocrats will tolerate

Post by NadirAli » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:34 am

AndrewForson wrote:An interesting discussion about the "anyone" in the "encyclopaedia that anyone can edit". WO regulars approve of the notion that "anyone" does not include people who are sympathetic to Nazism. I look forward to seeing whether they will take the same view about, say, people sympathetic to Stalinism. After all, one was a murderous dictatorial system that massacred millions of people, including Jews, in the cause of creating a new and better type of human being and the aggrandisement of their own country -- and the other was a murderous dictatorial system that massacred millions of people, including Jews, in the cause of creating a new and better type of human being and the aggrandisement of their own country.


Two sides of the same coin. Although the motives were slightly different the outcome and methods were pretty much the same. Added to that, the French and British also had a dirty history of colonization and genocide in Africa and Asia.

Yet only the loosing side the Germans get singled out for stoning and defamation.

On a slightly separate topic, I have emphasized online various times that the Saudi Wahabbi monarchy and it's criminal activities does not justify the Iranian Ayatollah regime and it's tyranny. They are two sides of the same coin.

Yet even the editing habits secular nationalist Iranians on Wikipedia clearly shows they want all negative info of their regime taken off the Iran-Saudi Arabia conflict articles.

Clearly what I define as "dirty editing".

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