"The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Because no one else is doing it--not even the media.
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"The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by Bbb23sucks » Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:33 am

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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by CarlsJunior » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:27 pm

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:33 am
Courtesy of Ognistysztorm:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wikiped ... reddit.com

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Wikim ... E38331.htm

Hostile work environment with bullying
Lack of innovation
High turnover
Political place to work
Toxic culture
Personality cult
Nobody makes decisions
Time wasting meetings
Dysfunctional monolith
First career for many of the employees - HR tends to hire people they know or people who are volunteers in the Wikipedia community leading to an unstable, unprofessional, often weird environment.
Just plain weird

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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by Bbb23sucks » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:29 pm

CarlsJunior wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:27 pm
Bbb23sucks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:33 am
Courtesy of Ognistysztorm:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wikiped ... reddit.com

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Wikim ... E38331.htm

Hostile work environment with bullying
Lack of innovation
High turnover
Political place to work
Toxic culture
Personality cult
Nobody makes decisions
Time wasting meetings
Dysfunctional monolith
First career for many of the employees - HR tends to hire people they know or people who are volunteers in the Wikipedia community leading to an unstable, unprofessional, often weird environment.
Just plain weird
Already covered: https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtop ... f=5&t=2648
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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by ChaosMeRee » Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:15 pm

Just the usual nonsense.

The general public are insanely uninformed about what little WMF executives actually do. If anything, they are vastly overpaid.

Jesus christ, imagine the absolute disaster if Wikipedia tried to produce an online map or a mobile phone....and am I fuck ever going to ride in a driverless car produced by those dipshits.

Their literal job is to facilitate the production of a free encyclopedia.

They have failed so far. But it matters not. The money keeps rolling in, and it keeps flowing out as salaries, wokerati grants and being hoarded in a rainy day fund.

Wikipedia is a complete grift. Guilty is as guilty does.

The volunteers know it, hence why they too have decided to cash in and start earning money for skills they only have in their own minds.

Administrator Cullen328, a middle aged white guy from fuckstick USA is charging $75 an hour for advice on how to edit Wikipedia "every step of the way". I wonder which step is launching a sustained and discriminatory attack on one of the Foundation's poorly paid coders, and then getting away with it by issuing an apology merely for the nasty tone, not the substance. On the substance, he was COMPLETELY WRONG. Precisely because a middle aged white guy from fuckstick USA doesn't know what he doesn't know about Wikipedia tech developments, but is arrogant enough to think he does.

The very last thing people like Cullen328 want is a properly paid executive layer, because someone who is worth that salary, is gonna deal with people like Cullen328 pretty fucking quickly. The standard is the standard. I would go os far as to say what Cullen328 did was a violation of any number of Californian statues designed to protect people just DOING THIER FUCKING JOBS. Their very poorly paid jobs.

Wikipedia is symbiosis in action. The executives know that all they need to do to keep earning their undeserved salaries, is not interfere with the delusions of grandeur of the volunteers, whose efforts in creating a community to create an encyclopedia, aren't worth the shit on anyone's shoe.

The fact that people like Cullen328 are the ELITE of Wikipedia is all you need to know regarding whether anyone at the Executive Level of the Foundation is worth their salary.

This is far too complex for the general public to handle.

Luckily for Cullen328 et al, the good folks of Wikipediocracy started gladly chugging Wikipedian semen down a few years ago now. Time was, Vigilant used to mercilessly attack the grifters. Now he simply bends over and parts his cheeks.

Administrator Ritchie333 was instrumental in helping Cullen328 avoid a well deserved block in that disgraceful attack. Ritchie333 is a regular poster on Wikipediocracy. If I was allowed to post there, I'd be asking Ritchie333 if he thinks the coder subjected to Cullen328's attack is entitled to danger money, or if people are right to think Cullen328 owes him big time for helping him avoid a Global Ban.

It's a good thing for Ritchie333 that I am not allowed to post there.

Keep chugging that semen boys. Tarantino isn't a skip tracer, he's a dirty little pimp. What's his salary?

The tyranny of evil men.

Always free of charge.

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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by Bbb23sucks » Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:21 pm

ChaosMeRee wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:15 pm
Administrator Cullen328, a middle aged white guy from fuckstick USA is charging $75 an hour for advice on how to edit Wikipedia "every step of the way". I wonder which step is launching a sustained and discriminatory attack on one of the Foundation's poorly paid coders, and then getting away with it by issuing an apology merely for the nasty tone, not the substance. On the substance, he was COMPLETELY WRONG. Precisely because a middle aged white guy from fuckstick USA doesn't know what he doesn't know about Wikipedia tech developments, but is arrogant enough to think he does.
Link?
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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by CarlsJunior » Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:44 pm

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:29 pm
Already covered: https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtop ... f=5&t=2648
Way too much .. its really simple

1) Weirdos and nimrods
2) Wikipedia sucks chow

No need to be a wingnut.. by fire pissing with a fire hose.. this means you.. what are you a Wikipedia weirdo that was rejected or something? Get a life. grow up..

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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by Bbb23sucks » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:09 am

CarlsJunior wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:44 pm
Bbb23sucks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:29 pm
Already covered: https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtop ... f=5&t=2648
Way too much .. its really simple

1) Weirdos and nimrods
2) Wikipedia sucks chow

No need to be a wingnut.. by fire pissing with a fire hose.. this means you.. what are you a Wikipedia weirdo that was rejected or something? Get a life. grow up..
What? This is a website for Wikipedia criticism, not just saying "Wikipedia sucks because Wikipedi sucks". If we don't criticize Wikipedia or take action against it, what would be the point of having a forum?
what are you a Wikipedia weirdo that was rejected or something? Get a life. grow up..
No. I am fully against Wikipedia. While I was once an editor (as most of this forum's members), I am no longer.
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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by CarlsJunior » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:53 am

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:09 am

What? This is a website for Wikipedia criticism, not just saying "Wikipedia sucks because Wikipedi sucks". If we don't criticize Wikipedia or take action against it, what would be the point of having a forum?
There is too much detailed information being presented here without a case being made.

IT IS HARD to make a case against one of the most visited sites on the Internet and have it stick. Its NOT HARD to make a case against one of the most visited sites on the Internet.

There is no case being made here on Wikipedia Sucks.

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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by ChaosMeRee » Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:33 am

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:21 pm
ChaosMeRee wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:15 pm
Administrator Cullen328, a middle aged white guy from fuckstick USA is charging $75 an hour for advice on how to edit Wikipedia "every step of the way". I wonder which step is launching a sustained and discriminatory attack on one of the Foundation's poorly paid coders, and then getting away with it by issuing an apology merely for the nasty tone, not the substance. On the substance, he was COMPLETELY WRONG. Precisely because a middle aged white guy from fuckstick USA doesn't know what he doesn't know about Wikipedia tech developments, but is arrogant enough to think he does.
Link?
https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtop ... =19&t=3123

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Re: "The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages"

Post by ericbarbour » Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:36 pm

In 2021, Katherine Maher, Wikimedia's ex-CEO who departed the company in April 2021, earned $789,495, the filing shows. Over $600,000 of that sum was paid out as severance.

COO Janeen Uzzell, who left the company in June 2021, earned $503,844 in 2021, the filing shows. Over $300,000 of that was paid out as severance.

Meanwhile, CFO Jaime Villagomez made $386,433, while general counsel Amanda Keton made $396,514. On the lower end, vice presidents Carol Dunn and Margaret Novotny were paid $241,438 and $242,379 respectively, the filing shows.
And that is why they are running constant shrieking banner ads and pop-ups wheedling for MOAR MONEY. They are well-paid for nonprofit managers--but can always complain about how poorly paid they are compared to their counterparts at Alphabet, Meta, etc.

"doesnt host ads" my fucking ass.

Twitter/X/whatever continues to be a megaphone for internet nitwits who love Wikipedia.

And if you still don't think Google is a deserving target for this forum:
And it isn't just humans who rely on it. As of 2022, Google has been paying the Wikimedia Foundation to reuse substantial chunks of information from Wikipedia. The encyclopedia is also one of the most important sources of training data for AI tools like ChatGPT, Nicholas Vincent, a professor at Simon Fraser University, told The New York Times.

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