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ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 5:08 pm
by Ognistysztorm

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:41 am
by Strelnikov
The BBC has caught on.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdydkypv7o

This might be fun. in a dorky legal way.

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:08 pm
by Ognistysztorm
Strelnikov wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:41 am
The BBC has caught on.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdydkypv7o

This might be fun. in a dorky legal way.
A lot can happen from there, such as the possibility that journalists becoming interested and delving deep into Wikipedia's skeleton closets.

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:49 pm
by ericbarbour
Ognistysztorm wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:08 pm
A lot can happen from there, such as the possibility that journalists becoming interested and delving deep into Wikipedia's skeleton closets.
It won't get much coverage in Western media. India subjects are the constant targets of editwarring by obsessed Indian editors. Remember that Wifione abused the HELL out of Wikipedia for several years before they tossed him.

This is bullshit. Articles have been yanked before due to legal action, and were always restored, so the abuse could continue.
Last week, the court ordered it to be taken down saying it interfered with court proceedings.

The Foundation has since suspended the page. Observers say this is probably the first time that a Wikipedia page in English language has been taken down after a court order.
Is this article being editwarred? Of course. For eighteen years. Mostly by people in India. Very little, it was a crummy stub until 2020 when the diddling went off the rails. Winged Blades of Godric tried to pwn it but left in 2020, just as the real shit started up. All is sockpuppets and idiocy.
https://xtools.wmcloud.org/articleinfo/ ... ernational

The article they DID blank was a separate one for the lawsuit. How old is it and what did it say? No idea. All the edit history prior to 21 October was "mysteriously destroyed" before WMFOffice blanked and protected it, as was the talkpage. NOFOLLOW tags were placed so the Wayback Machine and search engine archives didn't capture it. But the nerds quickly started recopying the content to the main article anyway. Indian judges have no idea how the demented internal culture of WP operates.

So (as usual!) Wikipedia is censored, to protect Wikipedia. And to hell with everything/everyone else. If anyone ever starts that "WIkipedia is NOTCENSORED" crap again, point this out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_New ... Foundation

Oh how lucky (?). Someone on Reddit captured a copy before it was salted. Save it before it disappears!
https://archive.ph/dNTEl

I only found this because Genderdesk already did full searches. Ask HER if she still thinks Wikipedia is NOTCENSORED. (And there's Graaf, in the comment section. He no likey this forum boo hoo.)
https://genderdesk.wordpress.com/2024/1 ... overnment/

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:26 am
by ericbarbour
https://www.techdirt.com/2024/11/12/thr ... igh-court/

The court is FORCING THEM TO DOX EDITORS. And inevitably the other assholes are restless. The petition is a list of Wikipedia's worst insiders and content grinders. Should you ever want to figure out if a "Wikipedian" is a secrecy-demanding, paranoiac, abusive shit, this list will be handy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... Foundation

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:14 pm
by Ram24
They are now talking about blacking out the English Wikipedia in protest!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... tion's_act

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:01 pm
by Ognistysztorm
Ram24 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:14 pm
They are now talking about blacking out the English Wikipedia in protest!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... tion's_act
They can, but people can just flock to Justapedia nowadays which will be an epic blow-back to their face.

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm
by ericbarbour
A full RFC was started:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... a_blackout

And there is your Idiot Screaming Match for the month. Maybe the year if it keeps getting louder.

(You notice that Jimbo plunked his blather right at the top of the RFC, and someone else moved it to the bottom? He's no longer the Tiny Dictator of Wiki. They don't care what he thinks anymore.)

A mishmash of longtime insider-nuts is on both sides of the squabble. LilianaUWU is in there whining about trans rights, as usual. And many of the people voting "NO" are being attacked very aggressively. It's stupid, because these shithead volunteers CAN NOT take down the whole thing without WMF support, which they won't get in this case.

Ever since the 2012 blackout over SOPA, they have hallucinated their "enormous political power". It ain't there.

As of my posting, it's 86 for a blackout, 147 opposed. Fail. 362k bytes of wasted energy.

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:22 pm
by Ognistysztorm
ericbarbour wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:49 pm
A full RFC was started:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... a_blackout

And there is your Idiot Screaming Match for the month. Maybe the year if it keeps getting louder.

(You notice that Jimbo plunked his blather right at the top of the RFC, and someone else moved it to the bottom? He's no longer the Tiny Dictator of Wiki. They don't care what he thinks anymore.)

A mishmash of longtime insider-nuts is on both sides of the squabble. LilianaUWU is in there whining about trans rights, as usual. And many of the people voting "NO" are being attacked very aggressively. It's stupid, because these shithead volunteers CAN NOT take down the whole thing without WMF support, which they won't get in this case.

Ever since the 2012 blackout over SOPA, they have hallucinated their "enormous political power". It ain't there.

As of my posting, it's 86 for a blackout, 147 opposed. Fail. 362k bytes of wasted energy.
That's true. The general atmosphere has been turning against Wikipedia for the last two years, with climaxes such as Holocaust in Poland distortions, Tracing Woodgrain's post about David Gerard and finally this.

Re: ANI vs Wikimedia

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:25 pm
by Ognistysztorm
CONFIRMED: Wikimedia Foundation sent details of editors to Delhi High Court in "sealed cover".

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... _opened%22
Actually, the judge opened the sealed cover, perused the contents thoroughly, then asked WMF counsel "How can these addresses be verified?" to which the reply was "These are all we have, and the website does not conduct verification of its users". The ANI counsel assisted his opponent by saying that service on the editors (D2-D4) is complete, they have not appeared, so can we please move on to my defamation takedowns. The judge then resealed the covers. So it can be safely inferred that WMF did not give ANI anything, and ANI never wanted the D2-D4 details at all, it was only a procedural formality so ANI can take on the "Wikimedia method/model" directly which is troubling all their SPAs/IPs. On a procedural note, once the case is complete and judgment given, the sealed covers are opened and anyone can inspect its contents. So nothing to fret over. Storm in a teacup.