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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by Archer » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:20 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_import_vehicle

Colossal article with sixteen this-section-is-a-piece-of-crap templates. The lede misuses the term 'arbitrage' in place of price discrimination and then states that "grey import vehicles circumvent this profit-maximization strategy", which is arbitrage. If a man with fifty years experience trafficking stolen vehicles decided to start a blog, I imagine it would look something like this.

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by ericbarbour » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:24 pm

A gold-medal rated pile of word hash that no one will ever read completely (medical students MIGHT, but I suspect they will be discouraged):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_use_disorder

I gave up counting the typos and incoherencies after getting one-third of the way down. Too many.

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by journo » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:04 pm

The [[Milton Friedman]] Wikipedia lede is misleading and dick sucking garbage.

After noticing the [[MMT]] page was controlled by User:BBB23 and User:Avatar317, the latter who made a vague reference to a "nobel prize winning economist" he admired while arguing for capitalist microeconomic though. I then took a look at the Milton Friedman page, where I then noticed separate people have been arguing against it's current dick-sucking form since at least 2009.

Here is one example. The Wikipedia article falsely states that Milton Friedman won the "Nobel Memorial Prize". This is false, or misleading at best, because no such prize exists officially by name.

The truth is, indeed, Friedman did not win the "Nobel Prize in economics" or "Nobel Memorial Prize in economics",
https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/ ... -economics
https://yasha.substack.com/p/its-all-a- ... -nobel-d55

What Milton Friedman actually won was a prize separate from the Nobel prizes, and run by the central bank of Sweden. Friedman was instead given the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, or Swedish central bank prize in economics, which co-opted the Nobel name to the explicitly stated dismay of the Nobel family. And whose primary agenda has been to promote monetarism, which is now considered fringe even in academia.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... business15

Only 5 real Nobel prizes exist, of which economics is not one of them.

This was last debated on Wikipedia in 2009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nobe ... c_Sciences
with User:Radek falsely implying over and over that there is a "Nobel Memorial Prize in economics", officially by name, when that is not the official name and is a highly misleading name.

The result of the Wikipedia debate was to give false authority to the monetarist friendly Nobel hijackers and rename [[Template:Sveriges Riksbank laureates in economics 2001–2025]] to the fake name [[Template:Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences laureates]].

The Milton Friedman Wikipedia lede is also bizarre in that it makes his politics seem primarily like some gay rights and legal drugs advocate. The following quote from the lede is all that it has about his politics in the lede:
Friedman advocated policies such as a volunteer military, freely floating exchange rates, abolition of medical licenses, a negative income tax, school vouchers,[19] and opposition to the war on drugs and support for drug liberalization policies.
When anyone who has watched him knows he instead spent most of his political time arguing against welfare that can't be inflated away, arguing against public housing, arguing against the minimum wage, arguing against rent control, arguing for economic growth at any social cost, arguing against progressive taxation, as well as arguing against virtually every left-wing accomplishment of the early 20th century. Only some of this is mentioned in the article but buried far in it.

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:15 pm

Liam Payne died today. Fell off a hotel balcony in Buenos Aires, probably drunk/stoned outa his mind. Poor guy.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Payne

Fanboy/girl trash, 78k bytes of it. Remember, One Direction has been "on hiatus" for the past eight years.

Once again, thank this freak for grinding Liam's article as if he were "important". Damp panties involved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:C ... s/Beecee14

Disagree? Still don't think Liam was all that "Wiki-Important"? Explain this away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... tion_songs

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by Archer » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:45 am

ericbarbour wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:15 pm
Liam Payne died today. Fell off a hotel balcony in Buenos Aires, probably drunk/stoned outa his mind. Poor guy.

Who?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Payne

Fanboy/girl trash, 78k bytes of it. Remember, One Direction has been "on hiatus" for the past eight years.

Once again, thank this freak for grinding Liam's article as if he were "important". Damp panties involved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:C ... s/Beecee14

Disagree? Still don't think Liam was all that "Wiki-Important"? Explain this away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... tion_songs
Drunk or not, everyone knows that if you jump off a balcony you're only going one direction. What do you mean though? That someone threw him?

Edit: I thought you wrote "damp parties involved", which I wasn't sure how to interpret but "wet job" was the first thing that popped into my head. Anyway, Wikipedia presumably has lots of content written by fans or PR firms / paid editors. Seems unremarkable in this case, compared to so much other nonsense on the site. I'm unfamiliar with him/his band.

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by ericbarbour » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:14 pm

After all the craziness of the EV market in the last 15 years......the Wikipedia article about lithium is still horribly dated in some parts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium

The "Production" section is a joke. It barely mentions major discoveries in places like Thacker Pass/McDermitt and says nothing about large underground brine deposits recently discovered in Arkansas and Pennsylvania, the result of previous fracking for oil and gas. In 2021 the price of lithium exploded, resulting in loads of new exploration for reserves. Things have changed.

But the article DOES quote from this archaic 2008 report by "Meridian International Research".

http://www.meridian-int-res.com/Project ... oscope.pdf
Over the years opinions have been differing about potential growth. A 2008 study concluded that "realistically achievable lithium carbonate production would be sufficient for only a small fraction of future PHEV and EV global market requirements", that "demand from the portable electronics sector will absorb much of the planned production increases in the next decade", and that "mass production of lithium carbonate is not environmentally sound, it will cause irreparable ecological damage to ecosystems that should be protected and that LiIon propulsion is incompatible with the notion of the 'Green Car'".[57]
Look at the website for "Meridian International Research". It has not been updated since 2010. Is this an oil-industry shill that was forgotten? If so, why is WP quoting it as a "reliable reference"?

Don't bother with the talkpage. Just a bunch of unrelated jabbering over lithium's physical properties. Most of which is ALSO badly dated. Great example of "crowdsourcing" failure.

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by ericbarbour » Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:31 pm

Plus, we have this chart on "Page statistics" for Lithium. A perfect example of Wikipedia's "golden age" of editing, and the decline of editing since 2011. The article gets LONGER, but not BETTER. Similar charts can be found on a wide range of other articles under "Page statistics". Bring this up at a Wikimania and they will probably throw you out of the room.
Lithium - Page History - XTools.jpg
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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by Strelnikov » Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:06 pm

The article gets LONGER, but not BETTER. Similar charts can be found on a wide range of other articles under "Page statistics". Bring this up at a Wikimania and they will probably throw you out of the room.
It's all about flinging crap at the wall and seeing what sticks on top of the 'bot editing. It was never an encyclopedia, but it's now on the verge of becoming an anti-wiki. If AI gibberish "writing" is allowed on en.Wikipedia, that's the true end of it.
Still "Globally Banned" on Wikipedia for the high crime of journalism.

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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by ericbarbour » Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:02 am

Strelnikov wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:06 pm
If AI gibberish "writing" is allowed on en.Wikipedia, that's the true end of it.
They already have unknown hundreds of bots generating "content". It's a foregone conclusion that generative AI will be making text and images, and are (without a doubt!) being quietly used already. Shit like this is being posted on Commons. Hey, at least some of it is being tagged clearly as AI-made. So much absolute garbage washes thru Commons every day. I've never seen an estimate of how much of it is fake. And the Wiki-Schmucks don't wanna know.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... a_legs.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... rdeen.webp
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... d_duck.jpg
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Re: Crap or questionable articles

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:34 am

Nice example of EXTREME Wiki-Autism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penelope_Pitstop

The edit history is deeply twisted. Normally, fanny-crap is written by one extreme nerd. Not this time.....

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