Brooklyn Center MN and Daunte Wright

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Brooklyn Center MN and Daunte Wright

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:13 pm

Have a look at the history of the Brooklyn Center article. Over and over people try to make it look like a violent police state, and not the boring chickenshit Minneapolis suburb it really is. And despite the article being protected, they are winning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... on=history

Also note the article STILL says Daunte was "accidentally shot". Yeah, suuuure.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kim-p ... te-wright/

Lo. Your moronic editwar of the week.

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Re: Brooklyn Center MN and Daunte Wright

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:34 pm

His Facebook was blanked but I saw it before and it was full of pics like this. Make no mistake, Daunte was a little shit. But still didn't deserve to be summarily executed in his car by a cop from chickenshit Brooklyn Center. (Dude, can I borrow a couple thou?)
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Re: Brooklyn Center MN and Daunte Wright

Post by sashi » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:46 pm

ericbarbour wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:13 pm
Over and over people try to make it look like a violent police state
I see all reference to the former city manager disappeared without a trace. You have to admit the story about the FBI paying rent to a Vegas developer for their digs in Brooklyn Center is odd... but is it "catalytic"? (§)

I suppose there's something about the Klan in the Indiana articles for that time period too, right? Edward L. Jackson. Oh, wait...

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Re: Brooklyn Center MN and Daunte Wright

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:12 am

it's easy to explain: Wikipedia CAN NOT handle contentious political or social-unrest related topics. Inevitably they turn into editwars and screaming fits on talkpages, then blocks and other administrator abuses.

2020–2021 United States racial unrest is a gold-plated example -- should one be needed for demonstration. The fucking thing is 164k bytes, should be more like 20k-30k bytes, and will only get longer as 2021 wears on. Then it will be forgotten and deletionists will chop it down or merge it to something else. American police are deeply fond of the frontier-justice-shoot-em-all trope, it is sad and disgusting but I doubt our rotten society will put a stop to it, and squawking about it on Wikipedia will do nothing at all, I GUARANTEE it. Those pissed off wiki diddlers should be in the streets burning police cars or something. But nooooo. So much more FUN, and easier, to sit on WP and call each other "racists". And beat each other over the spleen with "references".

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Re: Brooklyn Center MN and Daunte Wright

Post by Jake Is A Sellout » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:50 am

American police are a product of American society.

If your ingrained culture is that it's necessary to own a gun to protect life and liberty, then your police are naturally going to see the gun as a tool of not just law enforcement, but basic compliance and respect.

The problem America has right now, are there aren't that many clear and obvious examples of straight up murder by cop. All these issues, specifically this latest one, are happening because of the culture.

Duante Wright was only even in that situation, where a minor traffic stop turned into him wanting to flee, because in America, the issue is not, should you have a gun, it's is your gun properly licensed?

And when he chose to fight/flee, in America, in partuclar because you now don't know if he's just doing that because he's scared, or if this guy, who is known to possess an unregistered gun, is hoping to go out in one last blaze of glory, that is how you end up in a scenario where the default police reaction is to draw a weapon and use force to stop him.

The irony being, she clearly thought she was going to use her department issued non-lethal torture device to stop him, but she made a mistake because of course, the very first thing an officer reaches for when she feels threatened or has decided she needs to get an offender back under control, is her gun.

American society did this, they were the ones who walked willingly into a situation where guns and their legality, is unfortunately something every single citizen has to deal with, as a part of their daily lives.

Guns are allowed in Britain, but because we long ago settled the issue of how to secure liberty with lethal force, we rarely even see them, let alone have to deal with the issue of their proper use.

Guns are such an unnatural part of daily British society, and we are not exactly known for our peace loving ways, we can all name the landmark incidents that have successively reformed gun law.

Guns are for farmers to shoot rabbits, toffs to shoot stags, sporty types to shoot bits of paper or clay, police to shoot terrorists, and soldiers to shoot lawfully designated enemies of The Crown.

We have a very good idea of what is and is not a legal use of a firearm. Issues are clear cut and obvious.

A farmer shoots a burglar in the back in his own home using his legally owned shotgun? Sorry dude, that's murder.

A policeman shoots an innocent electrician in the head, without warning, while on duty, due to having had to make a split second decision whether or not that was a backpack or a bomb. Well, it's unfortunate, but that's not murder.

A soldier shoots an unarmed civilian with his Queen issued assault rifle during a United Nations sanctioned war? Yeah, that's murder.

And if you're wondering somehow if this is Wikipedia related. It is. You know how Wikipedia wants more women editors, because the theory goes, they're more empathetic and intelligent. Well, imagine my (not so much) surprise when I was talking to one of these women editors, a white American of course, and she insisted she had to have a gun, because she lived in a remote area, and the police could be fifteen minutes away.

Not for her, was all the evidence and statistics that even in America, in her scenario, she is more likely to be killed by her own weapon, or indeed the police, than by being shot by a home invader with the gun he brought with him.

This is the real dark side of American society, as represented by the supposedly smart Wikishits. They're all about evidence and reason and respect for life, until it comes to the central issue of what they think is right and proper if they feel their own life is at stake. And the key word being feel.

Not reasonable grounds, not statistical risk. Feelings. Fear. That shit that goes through your head when secretly watching Fox News, because of course American society says it's a fundamental right for a TV "news" channel to tell you anything that will boost membership of the NRA and Walmart's gun counter profits, no matter how ridiculous. Guns guns guns. Normalised, politicised, monetized.

Wikipedians would probably understand how fucked up their society is, if Wikipedia had been written by all the global peoples, therefore allowing all perspectives on the central issue here - does it make sense for gun ownership to be a normalised part of society, or not.

You can tinker all you want, you can increase background checks, limit weapon types, restrict where you can take your gun, the central issue will always be there.

In a developed country, it's not fucking normal or safe to persist with the idea the private citizen has a "right" to own a gun.

I suppose we Brits can shoulder some of the blame, but you know what, three hundred years is plenty fucking time for you ungrateful little bastards to grow the fuck up and get civilised. If the world's greatest democracy isn't capable of improving your life and liberty, well, shit, that bold claim must be a fucking lie, right? Citation fucking needed, as they say.

If Wikipedia told the truth about the grand fraud that is American society and its central tenets, the American people might realise how fucking stupid they are.

But Wikipedia is written in large part, by stupid Americans.

It doesn't just reflect their biases, it reflects their innate stupidity and sheer arrogance. This is what becomes of not having a culture or history to speak of, except tales of what assorted historical figures did with their guns in pursuit of the American dream. Guns guns guns. History and showbiz.

Owning a gun is not normal or safe. Guns have one purpose.

You see a gun, you're meant to be scared. You're meant to be thinking that a life or death situation is imminent. You're meant to be in a fight or flight mode.

You're not meant to be shopping in a grocery store, or doing your fucking laundry, or protesting your civil rights. You fucking morons.

Guns are so ingrained in American culture, you don't even question why you have them. You only query the specifics of their use.

The rest of the civilised world understands, there's very few situations where a gun is required. Protecting a warehouse full of TVs? You need lethal force for that? Really? You're a very materialistic culture, sure, but come on.

Perhaps the single biggest thing that shows Americans don't understand guns, and don't understand how fucked up their society's attitude to guns is, is the whole how many shots issue.

If you speak to a professional police force, or a professional Army, they will of course tell you that once you have taken the decision to shoot, and if your intent is to kill, which it must be because shooting to wound or maim or stop is a verified myth, then yes, you shoot and you keep shooting, until the threat is removed.

It doesn't matter if it was one shot or twenty, and if you think it does, you're kind of a moron. But you try finding that fundamental evidence based truth in Wikipedia, so as to better educate Americans as they go through this tumultuous time. I am guessing it isn't in there.

Wikipedia is a useless pile of shit, written by stupid people. It is the inevitable product of a society that is frankly too immature to be allowed the grave responsibility of either owning a gun, or writing an encyclopedia.

So, if you would all please just line up in an orderly queue for your most necessary mass execution, that would be appreciated. And don't worry, we're not going to use a lethal injection. We have the right tool for the job, tried and tested. The trusty machine gun.

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