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Censorship of Jewish articles

Post by tyc » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:22 am

The reliably sourced fact that a bris happened adjacent to the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting has been scrubbed by an Israeli cabal, by choosing to favor 2 Jewish sources taken out of context over 25+ mainstream sources

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

Post by Strelnikov » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:10 pm

tyc wrote:The reliably sourced fact that a bris happened adjacent to the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting has been scrubbed by an Israeli cabal, by choosing to favor 2 Jewish sources taken out of context over 25+ mainstream sources


Links, please.
Still "Globally Banned" on Wikipedia for the high crime of journalism.

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:30 am

Plus:

https://www.advocate.com/crime/2018/10/ ... ples-twins
http://www.towleroad.com/2018/10/synagogue-shooting/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ac ... ue-n925211
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/27/66139507 ... h-shooting

It was mentioned in many media reports. Leaving it off the WP article, because one prominent website (The Forward) said it didn't happen, is lunacy.

And we should note that InedibleHulk has been the principal "reality-changer" in this case. I've said many things about IH in the past, most of them less than positive...not to mention that IP address shrieking at people on the talkpage. They're not happy unless they are nit-picking over petty shit.

Even Zoloft was disgusted by IH before:
http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtop ... f=8&t=2953

From the book wiki article about Luka Magnotta:
UPDATE: Wikipedia has seen fit to restore his article, as of May 30, 2012. It is not yet clear why they have an article on a man with a non-notable porn career who has not yet been convicted. The article is presently 48k bytes long with 100 references, with every statement carefully cited -- clear signs of editwarring, most of which occurred in June 2012. The heaviest contributors are Skullers (T-C-F-R-B) and InedibleHulk (T-C-F-R-B), two editors who have been rarely seen anywhere else on Wikipedia. Skullers first appeared in 2007 and seems to be deeply interested in lurid criminal trials and disasters, InedibleHulk dates from 2006 and is fond of wrestling and "Ultimate Fighting". Interestingly, this version of the article makes no mention of Magnotta's repeated attempts to edit Wikipedia.

UPDATE: in September 2014, Wikipediocracy ran a blog entry about the bizarre mess surrounding the Wikipedia article about the Hannah Anderson murder/kidnapping case. Among the heavy editors of the article: InedibleHulk.

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

Post by tyc » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:36 am

It's not merely that many reliable and far more notable media sources mentioned it (including ones without a Jewish conflict of interest, like Forward) but that some included specific information, such as where the Bris was being held... https://people.com/crime/worshipers-in- ... -unfolded/
Dor Hadash’s Dr. Jerry Rabinowitz, a physician who had provided care to HIV and AIDS patients, was killed after he “ran … to try and see if anyone was hurt,” his nephew said. The congregation had gathered for a bris, a ceremony to name a baby boy.
The New Light congregants had gathered in the basement, according to the AP. Dor Hadash was near the front of the synagogue for the bris and Tree of Life was in the the Pervin Chapel, described by Rabbi Emeritus Alvin Berkun as a “gorgeous” blend of “woods and purple carpets” that seats 200.


even Jewish-friendly sources reported on it https://www.crescentcityjewishnews.com/ ... -shooting/
Initial reports suggested that a bris ceremony was occurring there at that time. However, the bris was not being held at Tree of Life Synagogue, but at Dor Hadash, a Reconstructionist congregation that rents space in the building.


Also one of the witnesses (one of the 3 survivors who hid in a closet when the Rabbi who exited the closet was shot in front of them) testified about the bris and thinking the gunshots were the bris table getting knocked...

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/a ... ws-to-die/
Werber noticed a table by the entrance with some wine goblets and a bottle of whisky, presumably for a special ceremony .. in one of the other congregations. Suddenly, there was a loud noise. “I assumed that someone had run into that table,” Werber said, referring to the table with the wine goblets.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-the-p ... -unfolded/
At the entrance, Cecil and David Rosenthal, brothers who are active members of Tree of Life, are handing out prayer books. There is a table with challah, wine and whiskey for a bris, or circumcision ceremony, being held that morning.


https://thejewishnews.com/2018/11/08/am ... ry-werber/
Werber's first realization of the shootings came after he heard loud crashing noises from the hallway. "He thought the Kiddush table .. had been knocked over, and he went to the doorway to see if he could help," said his niece, Retta London of Farmington Hills.



Forward's article which EB mentions...
ericbarbour wrote:Plus:
Leaving it off the WP article, because one prominent website (The Forward) said it didn't happen, is lunacy.

Ari Feldman wrote " there was no baby naming or bris last Shabbat morning" which MIGHT possibly true in that the shooting might have occurred before it technically started... but this doesn't at all contradict the claim that one was scheduled to be held and that they had set up for it.

I'm not sure how prominent https://www.vosizneias.com/309232/2018/ ... -massacre/ is but it has a similar problem:
In an email exchange with VIN News, Rabbi Jeffrey Meyers, spiritual leader of the Tree Of Life synagogue, stated unequivocally that the Advocate report was untrue. “There was no bris taking place in our synagogue,” Rabbi Meyers told VIN News.


There are 3 synagogues sharing the building, Meyers speaking for his congregation ("our" clearly meaning the Tree of Life congregation) not having a Bris in their synagogue (the Pervin Chapel, 2nd floor) is not in any way a contradiction to reports that Dor Hadash had one set up on the 1st level.

It's possible Meyers might've clarified that elsewhere in the e-mail but that the article didn't include that. Sandy Eller only quoted a single sentence and it's unlikely their correspondence was limited to a single sentence.

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:43 am

Free advice: let this die down. Wait at least several months. After the loonies forget, then you can fix it. (Assuming they ever forget.....ADHD types remember all kinds of useless details.)

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Re: Censorship of Jewish articles

Post by tyc » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:12 pm

Meh, if someone else wants to that's fine, but that's a fight I can't see going any differently by getting involved again.

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