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Post by CrowsNest » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:20 pm

Guido den Broeder wrote:The both of you need to stop fantasizing about people. It's not good for your mental health. I've been a member here for a while but don't post because of your presence. Not that this forum has any future. The Wikipedia community has shrunk so much that there is no space for multiple criticism sites.
Well, there's only two now, and if you research the origins and set up of this site, I would be surprised if it's going anywhere soon. Your personal beefs with certain members here notwithstanding (and we do have staff here if you really find it that objectionable), having seen you contribute to Wikipediocracy about your experiences with Fram, I'm confident you appreciate the need for a different forum where there is a much different attitude about the thing we are all seeking to criticize.

This site could be huge if people were willing to cohabit with others who don't like them, for the greater good. Not that we are aiming for a large member roll, that is less important to us than it is to Wikipediocracy. But the membership and indeed effectiveness of Wikipediocracy will always be hamstrung by their need to impose a pretty clear house POV on all their members, who must accept certain basic things as inarguably the truth, or be bullied off the site, if not just banned, as I was, for upsetting the delicate sensibilities of precious flowers like Dennis Brown. Not bullied via a robust exchange of different views, but full on Fram style overt bullying. High school stuff.

I'm not staff here, but while I'm around, there will always be a difference between the two sites, there will always be a reason why a person might choose one over the other. And for me, it will typically be down to how much the person identifies as Wikipedian, as opposed to a Wikipedia critic. A good case can be made that you can only be one and not the other. I'll happily argue that case with anyone, and not once will it get to the stage I feel I need to engage in the sort of behavior regularly seen on Wikipediocracy, or their mirror site, Wikipedia.

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Re: Eurocrap société anonyme (S.A.)

Post by Graaf Statler » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:29 pm

Guido den Broeder wrote:Some Dutch ME patients have moved to Spain or California because the climate there is better for us. Many want to leave The Netherlands, but can't. Half of us have no income or an income below the poverty line. I belong to that group.

If I look to your house you don't seems me someone living in poverty other than self chosen, Guido. What is a house like you own worth in Rotterdam, Guido? 350.000 euro? 400.000 euro? No, I don't believe you belong to that group, sorry.

Well, let the people have a look themself about house prices in Rotterdam.

https://www.funda.nl/koop/rotterdam/

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Post by Anyone » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:46 pm

Some more Eurotrash.

Just came across this guy in an ANI thread. His signature uses the colors of the German flag; he identifies as German American.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dlohcierekim

In the ANI thread he posted this little gem:

One more thing before I stop chewing on this. My asperger's impedes my ability to recognize non verbal social cues in face-to-face interactions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =909586417

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Post by Graaf Statler » Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:31 am

Anyone wrote:One more thing before I stop chewing on this. My asperger's impedes my ability to recognize non verbal social cues in face-to-face interactions.

And a sysop on WP-En of course. But why should it be such a mess there? :roll:

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Post by Anyone » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:03 am

Graaf Statler wrote:
Anyone wrote:One more thing before I stop chewing on this. My asperger's impedes my ability to recognize non verbal social cues in face-to-face interactions.

And a sysop on WP-En of course. But why should it be such a mess there? :roll:

Interesting. I didn't notice the German is a mod.

Did you know that until the end of 2012 Aspergers was considered a mental illness? It's all here:

https://www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/a ... th-manual/

But there's more to Aspergers than you might think. I once came across a Wikipedian called Dr Blofeld. I realize now he's a textbook-perfect example of Aspergers, but initially I thought he was a paranoid schizophrenic. The symptoms are often quite similar.

If this sounds nonsensical, it isn't. Here is a long, detailed, psychological autopsy of American chess genius Bobby Fischer:

https://psmag.com/social-justice/a-psyc ... cher-25959

The author makes this observation:

A variety of authors have speculated about Bobby Fischer's mental state. For example, Valery Krylov, a specialist in the "psycho-physiological rehabilitation of sportsmen," who is cited in Garry Kasparov's mini-biography of Fischer, believed Bobby suffered from schizophrenia. Krylov had worked with former world chess champion Anatoly Karpov for two decades and arrived at his diagnostic conclusion based on an examination of correspondence to and from Fischer, and published articles related to Fischer. A more recent and popular diagnosis surfacing in the literature suggests that Bobby suffered from Asperger's Disorder.

So, even trained psychiatrists confuse Aspergers with schizophrenia.

To some extent, Aspergers helps explain the constant lunacy you see on Wikipedia. For an excellent example of Aspergers, check out a Wikipedian called Guy Macon.

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Re: Eurocrap société anonyme (S.A.)

Post by Graaf Statler » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:47 am

Guido den Broeder wrote:This is why. I doubt this forum will last much longer.

Why Guido? Because this where te confronterende vragen?

What I ask you is complete logical. I ask you if Fram is a sock of you, I ask, I don't claim it and I point out to you the way you are running Wikisage conflicts with the Dutch legal regulation and I ask if you capitalise your Wikisage. I ask you. For the rest are you lying about your financial position, a poor man does't live in a 350K-400K house in Rotterdam and a man who should be as ill as you claimed to be simple can't make a trip as described to America and making a film and being a investor. And dance and dance once again. Real ill people can't do this, it is impossible! Even now although I am so much better I simple couldn't! I should end up in a American hospital if I did I suppose.

Guido, I am born with a inheritable hearth defect as i appeared now and it is a wonder I am still alive and I can proof that with medical files. Those are really ill people and I have never let me stop by that. I have my own firm, I have everything done in my life a man wants to do deep in his heart, I have a good life and I am although I am a pensioner still working! You are simple a fraud and a lier en een grote aansteller!

And a troll because you and your friends have tried to declare me dead on the internet and mad and doxxed me and forced me to tell much to much personal stuff in public only to defend myself. Although it is crystal clear I have not any mental defect and I am alive and the proof is in front of you and your friends. You have nothing, not even a social benefit what is very easy to get in Holland. They declared you healthy and no doctor in the world will declare me able to work, but I have worked! O yeh. in my own tempo and with succes! And I only stop if I really, really can't anymore!

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Re: Eurocrap société anonyme (S.A.)

Post by Graaf Statler » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:37 am

PS, notice I have never said you should not suffering ME. Because that diagnose, or the denying of it is up to a qualified doctor. But do you have any serious medical repport so you can proof you are suffering that decease in the form you are claiming? Because after the deep digging of the Dutch wiki community in my private life and stuff I think it is about time you come out in open, don't you think that should be fair, Guido? Dus dat ook jij eens eindelijk open kaart gaat spelen Guido kortom.

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