Admin gets recalled in a day, Admins lament the loss wondering if they are next

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Admin gets recalled in a day, Admins lament the loss wondering if they are next

Post by WikiWikiWow » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:43 am

An inactive admin,"Master Jay", who was probably gaming the system with the bare minimum required to keep access, was desysoped in a day after 25 editors voted to boot him. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... Master_Jay

Hammersoft and The Bushranger screamed bloody murder in the AN thread [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... een_closed] and wondered how anyone could be so heartless to get rid of an innocent admin.

It looks as though the rules are set up that it doesn't matter how many editors vote against execution, Admins face the firing squad once 25 votes are reached.

"It's automatic at 25 supports." -- The Bushranger

You can hear the sigh of defeat.

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Re: Admin gets recalled in a day, Admins lament the loss wondering if they are next

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:23 pm

Good. If there's an actual "rule" now, I hope they start purging some of the worst ones. Because in the past there were no procedures for desysop, it was a "popularity/unpopularity contest" with copious backstabbing and psychological warfare happening in IRC or elsewhere.

Remember the deranged shitshow over Fram in 2019? Need a reminder? He was banned and unbanned over and over. Megabytes of "discussion" were censored.
https://slate.com/technology/2019/07/wi ... versy.html

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Re: Admin gets recalled in a day, Admins lament the loss wondering if they are next

Post by WikiWikiWow » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:11 pm

I haven't seen that article before. I do see Fram on the noticeboards.

"As Wikipedia user Hammersoft recently pointed out, the 21 admin resignations in recent weeks effectively wipe out all elevations to the role of administrator for the last two years combined.*"

"It's a heckin admin genocide!"

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Re: Admin gets recalled in a day, Admins lament the loss wondering if they are next

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:49 am

WikiWikiWow wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:11 pm
"It's a heckin admin genocide!"
They got serious (again) about purging inactive admins in 2019 and bigtime in 2023, when the criteria were tightened. The first major purge was in 2011-12. For about ten years, a few hundred inactive admins "skated by" and were tolerated, by doing the barest minimum amount of work.

The official RFA by month chart shows that RFAs were trending downwards for several years, and that by 2018 things were getting really dire. After a nearly dead 2024, they promoted 13 admins in November. Behold the odor of desperation. Also see desysoppings by month. I suspect it is not really accurate--there have been cases of desysops that were made very quietly and will not appear on any list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... nistrators
The Semi-active and Inactive lists are getting rather long--again. All of those are hanging by a thread. And now, the nabobs admit to having only 451 active admins today. That's VERY bad. But thanks to admin bots, they can "pretend to be more powerful" than they actually are.

Plus I should probably update these charts. Not that anyone will care.
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Re: Admin gets recalled in a day, Admins lament the loss wondering if they are next

Post by WikiWikiWow » Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:28 pm

I actually didn't know about that, thanks. No wonder the admins "closed ranks" and now do everything they can to retain their Admin friends, which pretty much necessitates that those same actions will work against retaining contributing editors.

You were right about Admin contributions, it's mostly bot/script work, or blocks/bans.

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