Drmies

[Graaf Statler]

I disagree. Sure, the likes of Drmies are pitiful. He's in his early fifties and acts like a fucking teenager. I'm guessing he's spent most of the last three decades teaching kids and consequently hasn't matured at all. He's a very sad excuse for an adult.

But Molly is different. She's 25 and IMO very mature for her age. She has a job worth calling a job and is already enjoying career progression.

On top of this is the fact she's not some dumb-arse provincial. I've spent time in Boston [in addition to years in London, Bangkok and Singapore] and can easily spot the difference between those who live in metropolitan areas and little country bumpkins.

Magic Molly rocks!! And she ain't no loser.

About Drmies, the whole group where he belongs to of Dutch Wikipedians behave themself like fucking teenagers or even worse, he is no exception. They are all middle-age and good educated, and trolling like school kids.

About Molly I don't know. I agree with your conclusions, but on the other hand she is raised in the very toxic wikipedia surrounding.
It wouldn't surprise me if she is to deep embedded in the cabal and it's mentality to be a neutral and objective arb.

[Graaf Statler]

If, and that's a big if, all these things are true, I'd think that the "new editor" might not yet be well acquainted with how Wikipedia works. I'd sit down with em, make some coffee, and chat.
I also have an opinion on restoring edits made by sock accounts in violation of a ban (surely you know that User:Wikipediocracy&Co was blocked as a sock of the improbably named User:A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver): please do so only if you think that it improves the encyclopedia, and even then it should not be done lightly. This particular question is incredibly vague and has very little relevance to being on ArbCom.

Je had ook bijvoorbeeld de vraag eerlijk kunnen beantwoorden, Michel, is ook een optie. Maar de waarheid spreken komt helaas niet voor in jouw woordenboek.
Zal ik hem nog eens voor je neerzetten, Michel?

There is much speculation off-wiki focused on the subject of your legitimate alternative accounts. Would you be willing to publicly disclose the usernames of your legitimate alternative accounts? If not, why do you consider that this information should not be publicly disclosed? Thanks.

Goed, ik zal het in het Nederlands, je moerstaal voor je neerzetten.

Er is een hoop speculatie over die sokken van jouw en iedereen zou nu wel eens willen weten welke die zijn. Ikzelf ben er namelijk van overtuigd dat Natuur12 er een van je sokken is. En gezien de vele controversieel bewerkingen van dit account zou ik het minste vinden wat je kan doen is afstand in het openbaar nemen van dit vermoedde. Meer vraag ik niet en zeker niet om belachelijke of pijnlijke sokken te onthullen. Kleine moeite lijkt mij.

Dus, gewoon op het mijn OP schrijven, nee Statler, je ziet spoken, ik heb niks van doen met het account Natuur12. Moly acht ik eerlijk genoeg om toe te zien of jij de waarheid spreekt, en het hele zooitje leest hier toch. Daar was je laatst ook immers te gast, dus je kent de weg.

[Dysklyver]

Grillofrances is obviously talking about material in articles:

What do you think about reverting an edition which provides true information, 100% of the info is based on reliable sources, it's objective, grammatically correct, not offending anybody and useful for the article but it's reverted because a new editor just claims this info is redundant?

But the reply is way off:

If, and that's a big if, all these things are true, I'd think that the "new editor" might not yet be well acquainted with how Wikipedia works. I'd sit down with em, make some coffee, and chat.
I also have an opinion on restoring edits made by sock accounts in violation of a ban (surely you know that User:Wikipediocracy&Co was blocked as a sock of the improbably named User:A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver): please do so only if you think that it improves the encyclopedia, and even then it should not be done lightly. This particular question is incredibly vague and has very little relevance to being on ArbCom.

Exactly what mental acrobatics must have been needed to formulate that reply to that question!

He obviously wanted to reply to my question with some "go away troll" speech, but since it isn't there, stuck his reply in someone else's answer box instead. How confusing.

[Graaf Statler]

Of which of your contributions to Wikipedia are you most proud? Why?


Well, I made a big error of judgment on Unthanksgiving Day, years ago, and had the opportunity to retract and help improve the article. I helped bring a few things up to FA. I've written a ton of articles on topics that otherwise aren't likely to get a lot of coverage, articles within my professional and linguistic expertise--which just shows to which extent we need to globalize our group of editors. And I've made a lot of friends, and I am very happy with that. Oh, I just blocked another antisemite. I'm not necessarily proud of that, but I'm very happy that I've been entrusted with the block button.
Thank you in advance

You forget one, Michel. This one.

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Status:    Done

Graaf Statler
This user has already been blocked indef at three projects (nl-wiki, nl-wikiquote, meta-wiki) and the block reasons include persistent sock puppetry and harassment. However, this behavior is now also spreading out to en-wikiquote and en-wiki disturbing more people (see also his other edits at that specific project) At en-wiki he is bothering me - the blocking admin at nl-wiki (this post includes accusations about another editor, namely that this editor is a large scale copyright violator which isn't true) and trolling at Jimbo's talk page the same way he did here at meta before he got blocked. (Please also check his other contributions at en-wiki) Since blocking at individual projects didn't help and only made the abuser move to another project I am requesting that his account is locked. See here for a (probably incomplete) list of his socks. Natuur12 (talk) 08:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Now also blocked indef at en-wiki. Natuur12 (talk) 09:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Why don't you just admit Natuur12 is a sock of you, professor? Or doesn't make this edit you feel proud? It even ended up in a SanFanBan!
Well, I am sure it will impress the voters if you do so, don't you think so, professor? Don't be so shy, just say, well guys, the other socks are a bit embarrassing, but look what I did with this sock. And it really makes me proud!

Drmies, de grote, grote vandalismebestrijder! Je zou moeten glimmen van trots al een pik in de maneschijn man, om deze prestatie! Allemaal valse bescheidenheid, gewoon toegeven.

[Graaf Statler]

Eigenlijk ben ik er wel uit, Michel. Drmies en het Moria-NL account zijn, of beter waren publieke accounts. (Zoiets als een publieke vrouw, weet je.)
Dat zag je heel duidelijk bij het inmiddels kaltgestellte Moira account waarop de kleine Ymnes per ongeluk doorkutte met zijn toen nog Caribbean project waar hij toen mee bezig was. En met Drmies is dat niet anders, daar zitten, ik gok, je studenten op te kutten.
Dus zijn je Dr Aaij en Natuur12 je persoonlijke accounts, en wilde je een Arb account voor je studenten in de vorm van dat Drmies account.

Interszant professor, heel intereszant. Je bent gewoon een pareltje onder de Nederlandse professoren Engels, echt Michel.

[CrowsNest]

You must know you're in the hole when you've done so much skeevy shit just in the narrow confines of COI, that it takes a whole team of critics to keep track of it. Courtesy of The Devil's Advocate, here's one that was new to me......

his COI editing is of more interest. However, a lot of that COI editing does involve his Dr. Aaij account. For instance, the most recent incident I know of involving the Milton McGregor article, about an Auburn donor, was one where his Aaij account was active. Despite it being part of a student assignment and him being well aware of the article's issues, Drmies did nothing to resolve those problems and it was deleted as essentially a promo piece.

[Dysklyver]

Fram is now taking Drmies to arbcom, accusing him of being totally incompetent and possibly other things.

[Graaf Statler]

Yes, but this is a dirty attack.

Drmies felt the need to insert a "fun fact" about this banned pedophile, and indicated that he was the one that proposed to unban with a totally inadequate topic ban, and showed himself a great judge of character with "if he comes to my house I'll still offer him coffee" (perhaps not unsurprising from a professor who addresses a female student with "Ms. Jisbell2, you know you're my favorite and I love you!"

I should offer Guido coffee too, and ask him why he has stolen my work in the most creepy way for his Jehova Wikisage. Valse voorwensenselen, mijnheer Guido, ik zal NOOIT aan wat dan ook Jehova-achtigs meewerken, omdat het een sekte is. En zeker niet ten behoeve van jouw stichting Paraduin, vooral niet nu ik meer achtergronden ken! ! En de manier waarop jouw "moderator" Lidewij aka Lidegek mijn behandeld heeft zullen we het ook maar ff niet over hebben. Of je geestelijk gestoorde mail dat jij wel ff naar de politie zou gaan!


"Je bent mijn favourite en ik hou van je" has no sexual loading in Dutch, and it seems to me a little joke. But for the rest he is a tremendous jerk and complete incompetent with his Natuur12 sock and Guido too. But for other reasons.

[CrowsNest]

Fram is now taking Drmies to arbcom, accusing him of being totally incompetent and possibly other things.

HAVE A NICE DAY.



Drmies should never have made it so obvious he wants to be in Opabina's knickers so badly. Fram plays dirty. He doesn't phone your wife at home while she's innocently living her life, still oblivious to what her husband does all day while at "work". Oh no, Fram goes after your wiki-girlfriends.

If only Drmies was just a nicer more thoughtful person, maybe none of this would be happening. But he isn't. So it is.

He's got to be jealous though, hasn't he? Look at Fram go, openly harassing (hounding?) Drmies right in front of the whole committtee, and they're doing nothing except procedurally decline his "soapbox". Not even the mighty Floquenbeam or the mighty Black Kite dare block the mighty Fram.

That's power. Just watch out for Bishonen though Fram, because she has more power than anybody.

[CrowsNest]

What all the drama is for, besides Fram's effort to sink my ArbCom nomination, is not clear to me.

Saying stuff this way, because you realise saying "Fram is only doing this to sink my nomination" would make you look bad, but you can't resist saying something, is a great example of who Drmies really is. Can't just shut his mouth.

This was the wrong year for anyone to be complaining about having their ArbCom candidacy sunk by drama. If Drmies doesn't like it, he can go say something condemnatory about what Eric Crobett, Floquenbeam, Boing! Said Zebedee and Iridescent did to Fred Bauder, show the wavering voters he condemns Fram's actions out of principle, not mere self-interest. Given they're all his good buddies, I'm gonna say that won't be happening.

So take your beating Drmies. If you protest, Fram will just beat you some more. It's kind of his thing.