ArbCom election 2018

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:31 am

I'd so like to vote for Joe....
As a new admin, it's been frustrating to see some long-serving admins behave in ways that nobody who was still contemplating an RfA would dream of, which I think is a symptom of this problem. If elected I would definitely advocate that, unless the issue is tool misuse, whether or not an editor has admin rights should be completely ignored when deciding sanctions. – Joe (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
.....but you really do have to wonder if he can stop the other boys stealing his lunch money.

I suppose Gorilla Warfare might become his big sis' protector, but then Opabina is just going to start spreading rumours about her, and as they go at it, Joe will be taken round the back of the bike shed and be given a good kicking.

In all seriousness, how on Earth do you genuinely believe he gets angry at the thought of long serving Administrators abusing their position, when he had all those years in which he could have joined their ranks and cleaned house? By his own admission, he's stayed away from AN/I and such like.

That is where you generally find long service Administrators who seem to think their rusty sheriff's badge entitles them to behave like assholes, and indeed the lickspittles and wannabes who encourage them by talking so much crap about tool abuse and boomerangs and all that shit, so that is where I would expect to have seen a candidate established their credentials, pushing back against some of that bullshit, even if it is usually pointless.

Make me believe Joe. Show me one time you faced off against one of these corrupt fuckers, especially if it worked, and you will have my vote.

Jesus, if any candidate wanted to stake their claim that they stand against Administrators abusing their service-accrued power, there's a goddamned Arbitration case happening right now where that is a core issue. Get your asses over there and tell us what you think of what Boing!, Iridescent, Beeblebrox and Future Perfect did. Because those are the scumbags who are going to be pounding on poor old Joe if he doesn't show them he's serious about taking names and cleaning house.

Joe won't get elected, but if by some miracle he does, perhaps for the sheer novelty of hearing a candidate say stuff like that, then in reality, he's not going to make a dent in his the likes of how those pond life operate. He won't be allowed to. Opabina will make sure if it.

This is the reality of Wikipedia. Why are you even bothering? A total waste of your time. Seriously, go back and read past candidate's statements and questions. All you will find is broken promises and a whole bunch of bullshit.

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:13 am

Dysklyver wrote:Well either Drmies became a massive sockmaster after 2015, or more likely no-one noticed he was a massive sockmaster until after his power-grab allowed him to cover it up. ;)

I don't personally believe for a second there isn't a coverup, you don't need to hide legitimate alternative accounts, and there is no indication of Drmies having test accounts, bots, or an account for insecure access points. This leaves a pretty obvious conclusion.

Well, you where right on WO, Drmies did where every wikipediaen is dreaming of. He is the guy who successfully convinced the directors of a university that FA/GA was akin to an academic peer review process. Something what many others not reach.
My dear Wiki friend Romaine for instance was yesterday teaching students about Wikipedia on the University of Antwerp, but no, he still isn't a professor. So in that way Drmies is real special and I can understand WMF forgives him everything, even being a sock master. This could be a explanation why his bad behaving and trolling is so long accepted. .

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:37 pm

Four days into the voting period, the "peanut gallery" has been informed of the details of Drmies' use of alternate accounts, minus any actual verifiable links, not even the widely known name of his teaching account, not even a concrete number (he can't remember, bless), and without telling anyone who prompted him into this utterly pointless (and undated) expansion of his official candidate statement, by either talking about it for days on the open internet, creating an obvious sock account to have it posted (and instantly reverted) as an official question, or via a devotee who recently benefited from his good grace, kindly emailing him in private to tell him people were gossiping about him, where previously he had merely deigned to admit that he had an unspecified number of alternate accounts, but otherwise giving no details beyond the fact they are known to ArbCom (which is mandatory if you want to stand in this election) and they don't interfere with usual business (whatever the fuck that means, it bears no resemblance to the language of the governing policy).

All I can say is, you lucky voters!

You really are mugs to be putting up with this shit. You really do deserve people like this as your spirit animals. Have fun over the next twelve months. You may soon be lucky enough to be baited into doing something that lands you before ArbCom, placed before Drmies in his five pointed hat, by a mysterious weird Dutch sounding editor dressing in digital drag. Especially I imagine, if you are a woman who is working to raise standards of civility, in the process making life difficult for users who have been previously unblocked or otherwise frequently bailed out of the shit by Drmies (Roxy the Dog being yet another one I was reminded of recently), with his esteemed judgeness of course neither recalling these interactions off his own back, nor when pointed out to him, not agreeing they render him an impartial judge. You think that last bit wouldn't happen? Check out our forum, you stupid fuck.

The dress wearing Dutchman will be your end. As always happens in Dutch tragedy porn. Don't say you weren't warned, 'cos I warned you. Many many times.

Ask him about his employment contract next. Does his tenured position require him to do any work at all? Because if not, that's a hell of a lot of free time with which he can while away the hours in his University office pretending to be God knows who on Wikipedia, for God knows what reason. Think he doesn't edit from his office? Check out our forum, you stupid fuck.

Or you could just believe his candidate statement, where he says "It's a very busy time for me right now workwise." Sure. He's barely managed 1,500 edits this month, well down on the 2,500 of October. Or September. Or August. Still, he is well on track to achieving his average monthly total of 1,800. But you knew that right? You checked this statement for believability, right? RIGHT?

Of course you didn't. Because you all trust Drmies. Like he says, when he defaults to pointing out his status as an Administrator and former Arbitrator whenever anyone dares challenge his conduct as being unbecoming.

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by Graaf Statler » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:48 pm

Kom op, Michel, je kan het! Je wordt minmaal zo beroemd als Armin van Buren daar in Amerika!! Of Jaap van Zweden

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:34 pm

Drmies must feel confident of his chances, this edit is classic him......

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =869909095

No more pretending to voters he even bothers to read the pages he refers people to as if they offer any clue as to why he does what he does.

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:43 pm

But maybe election Drmies is still in action....

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =870472425

Unnecessarily pounding on Andrew is popular with a large segment of Administrators. Then again, he would probably be doing that anyway, and telling people that a specific kind of vandalism is not fine, while obviously not having his own proposal for how to deal with it, is classic Drmies.

Someone should ask him an official election question. What is your understanding of why that vandalism still happens, and what is your best idea for stopping it? If it helps, feel free to imagine the vandal is an anti-Semite who is trying to harass your wife. Remember, there are no bad ideas.

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:43 pm

Seriously, vote for Drmies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =870328376

He is all of you, your true selves, and you fucking know it.

He was just smart enough to realise that on Wikipedia, you can be you, 'ain't nobody gonna stop you.

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[9] Thank-you. Ifnord (talk) 15:55, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Under new and more enlightened arbcoms hopefully soon including Drmies, one sees the WP:ANYONECANEDIT idea thankfully taking a back seat as it deserves. MPS1992 (talk) 02:53, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

I don't know, MPS. I don't want to give the impression that I'm against IP editing; I'm not. At least not yet--but it's getting more difficult for me every day to maintain that position. Then again, the biggest problems most recently came from compromised accounts, not from IPs... Drmies (talk) 03:00, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Come on, you cowards. Admit it. You want Drmies to take the sole responsibility for deciding if IPs can edit Wikipedia. He can handle the pressure. He blocked this guy just like that, and constrained himself to a snarky comment and a comparison to hackers. That's how you deal with the white hot pressure of vandal patrol.

You're all pussies for not being capable of this sort of vision, this sort of leadership, this sort of steely resolve to do what needs to be done.

Who cares if this IP gets pissed off, goes to How to Fuck With Wikipedia College (and we are still offering scholarships), and eventually masters the art of compromising Administrator accounts just to hammer home the pont that if Drmies wants him to be a vandal, he can be a vandal.

It not like that ever hurt anybody.

Seriously, vote for Drmies. Some us are putting our kids through actual college off the back of this guy's complete inability to resist his base urges.

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:55 pm

Drmies wrote:I've heard much talk about "unblockables"--yet I know Eric C. was blocked quite a number of times, and was restricted (by ArbCom, maybe? before my time) from participating in various forums and areas.........I don't subscribe to the whole notion of unblockables, nor do I think that ArbCom is somehow reneging on some duty by not blocking/banning those deemed undesirable by some.
SERIOUSLY, VOTE FOR THIS GUY.

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:03 pm

:lol:
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What connection, if any, do you have with user Dr Aaij?

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Re: ArbCom election 2018

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:12 pm

Jesus. It's been a bumper crop.....
Other than DS, what measures could ArbCom take in addressing conduct issues? Which, if any, of these alternatives should ArbCom take?

If it doesn't go by way of a case request, ArbCom should probably stay out of the business of initiating such behavior modification--unless of course it's the child pornography kind of conduct...
Can you imagine how unsuitable for this role someone has to be, to be still thinking, after all these years, that ArbCom still deals with child protection issues?

But seriously, vote for him. He knows his stuff.

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