Re: Have no luck with unblock

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Re: Have no luck with unblock

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:23 pm

As usual, that is complete and utter bullshit. There is NOTHING to force Arbcom to follow their own rules on 3-strikes blocks. Nor is there anything forcing random admins to do the same. Incompetence and abuse are baked into the "administration" (I use that word only as an ironic joke) and no one can ever expect an even-handed response. Especially when a shitass opened an SPI. Bbb23 and Ponyo were involved and that always means bad news for the editor.

Looks like they recently ran afoul of professional asshole/paid editing admin Laser brain for doing pointless things over and over. Not unusual for teenagers to show up on en-wiki and enthusiastically start changing articles without seeking that absurd mass delusion called "on-wiki consensus". (thread OP name redacted)---- was messing with quality ratings---big mistake.

I looked at Laser brain many years ago for the Wikipedia book notes. The sonofabitch started on WP by creating and expanding a massive advertisement for Elderly Instruments. So now Elderly are one of the VERY few local music dealers with a long article. The insiders knew damn well he was paid-editing but gave him the admin bit later anyway. I have very little nice to say about Laser brain--or about any of his supporters at AN.
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Re: Have no luck with unblock

Post by ericbarbour » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:12 am

There's not much you CAN do. Not with that account.

Free advice: DO NOT EDIT WIKIPEDIA. So easy, eh?


If you MUST edit Wikipedia, take my suggestions seriously.

1) get a VPN and USE IT ALL THE TIME. Some VPN proxy hosts are likely to be blocked by WP's idiot squad, just keep trying until you get one you can log in with. You could try TOR but they usually have all the TOR exit nodes blocked from editing.

2) create new accounts, and new email addresses for each account. They cost nothing but time. USE some, and save some.

3) DO NOT fuck with articles you edited heavily before. Also do not reformat, rerate, change references for existing statements, or do other things likely to enrage the resident nerds. Do not be a lazy ass and copy-paste text from other websites.

4) DO NOT argue with an admin if challenged. They will toss you with no warning or justification. Most admins don't give a SHIT about an "encyclopedia", you are just a video game character to be killed. Use another account and go do something else.

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Re: Have no luck with unblock

Post by Jake Is A Sellout » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:32 pm

so what can I do now?
Just keep sending appeals to random Wikipedia Administrators.

Never forget, there are no firm rules on Wikipedia. None of the volunteers have the ability or the authority to tell you to go away and not return for at least a year.

"Ignore all rules" is a core Wikipedia policy for a reason.

If their inflexible, rude, arrogant and frankly insulting handling of your case has prevented you from obtaining a genuine chance of becoming a productive Wikipedia editor, then you are entitled to ignore them, and just keep going.

Keep appealing, keep stating your case. Make sure that they know that you're only going to actually go away once they have given you your chance to prove you can be productive, and you have failed that chance.

Reject their artificial and unjust conditions, because, and it's no secret to us, much of what these people do when declining appeals, isn't done for your best interests or for Wikipedia's.

It's done to make their lives easier. It's hard work to mentor people, which is why they don't want to do it.

ArbCom are very busy people. They routinely ignore issues, or give pro forma replies, when they don't want to take the time to give a proper response.

The person who has taken over your case, Beeblebrox, doesn't have time to deal with people like you. He is too busy talking to the assholes and weirdos on Wikipediocracy. He is probably over there right now, laughing about you. So why would you care what he says about your case?

Never forget, your are entitled to edit Wikipedia.

The owners of Wikipedia are going around telling anyone and everyone, that Wikipedia is a vital public service, and that by extension, they're not simply a private website that can pick and choose who they let take part. They market Wikipedia as a Universal Human Right.

It is your HUMAN RIGHT to be able to edit, according to the owners of Wikipedia. The volunteers disagree, but who are they to tell you a different story to what the owners of Wikipedia are telling you? If the volunteers had their chance to decide such things, everyone would have to work really really hard, just for the chance to lick their boots. They're power mad. They get off on it.

If the owners of Wikipedia don't think you should edit Wikipedia, they have the means to prevent you, without involving a single volunteer. And if that happens, you will know it has happened.

It hasn't happened yet.

So keep going. Appeal, appeal, appeal.

If they claim you are harassing them with these unwanted messages, ignore it. The owners of Wikipedia are the only people with the power and authority to decide whether you are harassing volunteers.

Harassment is more than simply messaging people who don't want to be messaged. Harassment definitely isn't sending a person a first message. If the owners of Wikipedia believe you should no longer be allowed to contact volunteers, then you will know it. This hasn't happened yet.

So keep going.

Exercise your right to edit. Because it is a "fundamental human right" according to the owners of Wikipedia. Anyone who tells you different, is a liar.

If they do, show them this......

https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/20 ... hat-means/

Anyone who stops you from exercising your right to freedom of expression on Wikipedia, up to and including the arrogant and uncaring Arbitration Committee, without first having proven that the way you express yourself on Wikipedia is contrary to Wikipedia's other goals, is denying you a fundamental human right.

You are entitled to your chance.

History teaches us that human rights are not given away by oppressive regimes, they have to be fought for.

So fight.
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Re: Have no luck with unblock

Post by badmachine » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:58 am

Eric's socking tips are useful. Do not engage if one of them tries to communicate on your talkpage. Have plenty of socks on hand so you can switch accounts if someone tries to hassle you, and access to many IPs, especially dynamic ones. There are user agent changer apps that will be useful, use a variety of user agents or use several browsers if you don't want to bother with changing your user agent. But the best advice is that Wikipedia is a lost cause and to not engage with them at all, or else you may end up with a nastygram from WMF Legal.

I'm surprised at JIAS, i thought he understood the futility of 'fighting back' with Wikipedians. But i love to see he is back nonetheless. :^)

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