Wikipedia Sucks!

Do you support the suggestion I'm a c**t?

Very disappointing to see you in a thread saying that. Plus the attack on User:Bishonen. Those attacks didn't seem to bother you. Doug Weller talk 11:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't say or support any such things (and if the C word showed up somewhere, I didn't see it). I would have thought, over the years, that you would have realised the respect I have for both you and Bish. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I've rechecked all my recent comments, and I still have no idea where (or how) I'm supposed to have called you a "c**t" or supported anyone else calling you one, or where I have attacked (or supported attacks on) User:Bishonen. Would you care to explain? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Hmm, after searching wider, I think I might know what this is about. I'll send you an email. (But I'll add here, for the public record, that I do not in any way endorse the comments that I think you refer to.) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

I think Doug must be referring to your posting in a Wikipedia Sucks thread and taking no notice of the fact that people above you in the thread had been calling Doug (and me) various charming epithets. Did you think Wikipedia Sucks was the best place for your post? I mean, other criticism sites are available. Bishonen | tålk 14:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC).

I worked out that was likely the thing, and I've emailed Doug about it. I had good reasons (I believe) to post there, which I explained to him. I'll send you a copy by email too, and I'll probably remove this thread soon as it really should be an offline discussion. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Do you support the suggestion I'm a c**t?

Very disappointing to see you in a thread saying that. Plus the attack on User:Bishonen. Those attacks didn't seem to bother you. Doug Weller talk 11:22, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

I didn't say or support any such things (and if the C word showed up somewhere, I didn't see it). I would have thought, over the years, that you would have realised the respect I have for both you and Bish. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I've rechecked all my recent comments, and I still have no idea where (or how) I'm supposed to have called you a "c**t" or supported anyone else calling you one, or where I have attacked (or supported attacks on) User:Bishonen. Would you care to explain? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Hmm, after searching wider, I think I might know what this is about. I'll send you an email. (But I'll add here, for the public record, that I do not in any way endorse the comments that I think you refer to.) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

I think Doug must be referring to your posting in a Wikipedia Sucks thread and taking no notice of the fact that people above you in the thread had been calling Doug (and me) various charming epithets. Did you think Wikipedia Sucks was the best place for your post? I mean, other criticism sites are available. Bishonen | tålk 14:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC).

I worked out that was likely the thing, and I've emailed Doug about it. I had good reasons (I believe) to post there, which I explained to him. I'll send you a copy by email too, and I'll probably remove this thread soon as it really should be an offline discussion. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Sandstein wrote:Support. I am not familiar with the details of this issue, but just looking at this thread, it appears clear to me that any person generating so much overhead for fellow editors, and with a block log that takes up more than one screen, is a net negative to the project. Productive editors quietly generate articles, not drama. Sandstein 07:12, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Bbb23sucks wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:19 pm

Productive editors quietly generate articles, not drama. Sandstein 07:12, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

badmachine wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:39 am

this remark sure looks like the thrill is gone.

It-WP suffers from the same insane behaviour by its administrative corps as en-WP. For an example, consider the 2014 "Daniele Santarelli war", documented here and here in detail. "Vituzzu", the Wikipedia Italia administrator/bureaucrat and WMF steward responsible for this madness, claimed on the 2009 version of his it-WP userpage to be "12 years old", a "dentist", and "living in an attic".

badmachine wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:39 am

im not sure but Boing's recent contribs make it seem like he is done with wikipedia. this remark sure looks like the thrill is gone. big if true, and congratulations to him, if he sticks to it.

boredbird wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:14 am

The WIkimedia Foundation sets you up to do their work for them, to take the hits for them, even delivering those hits themselves when expedient as they did to Fram and so many others, and leaves you with only your own dick in your hand as they walk off with all the money.
Don't forget that for all the bullshit some unnamed person or people have done, it was the Foundation which invited and allowed them to do it, then left it to you and others to do something about it. You helped them and received nothing in return.

One of the central addiction mechanisms is the watchlist. It isn't a benefit but a work assignment. Facebook would kill to make their content pushing feeds so addictive but still the effect is evident when you comment, find five responses the next day and some three hours later realize how they've sucked you in to wasting your time. Wikipedia is that times eleven.