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Bishonen

Post by CrowsNest » Fri May 04, 2018 1:44 am

Admin Bishonen is basically the leader of the faction of Wikipediots who hate Jimbo, hate the WMF, hate Arbcom, hate gnomes, hate newcomers and hate people who believe in WP:CIVILITY. They'll basically only be happy once Wikipedia is reorganised so as codify what is already pretty much the defacto situation - the only people who matter, who deserve any kind of respect or protection, are the stupid fucks who have wasted years of their lives writing articles and developing social networks in the NOTSOCIALNETWORK. And the only people who can wield any power, are of course their Admin protectors. Not organised as a corps where enforcement is discussed and deliberated, but more like a Judge Dredd type deal.

Judge Bishonen is female, or at least claims to be, but like most people who identify as women on Wikipedia, especially those who have stuck with it long enough to become faces, she is a gender traitor. You do not go looking to her for sympathy or inspiration in the name of the sisterhood, much less common decency, lest you want a good kick in the lady parts and a lecture on how you need to toughen up if you want the privelage of working in her salt mines.

Not for nothing do I call her the Queen Bitch of Wikipedia. She is quite shameless, brazen even, in what she does - you can complain about her outside Wikipedia all you want, she above all of the cultists ascribes to the idea that the only people who matter in Wikipedia, are those in Wikipedia. Qualified obviously by the fact that even if you are in Wikipedia, to her you don't matter unless you show her the proper respect she feels she is due, as one of the local warlords.

In blatant disregard for official protocol, she rather cutely never directly addresses any criticism that some unwise people sometimes direct her way on Wikipedia, as Wikipedians. If initial attempts to brush it aside fail, she will simply double down and dare you to take her to AN/I or even ArbCom. She doesn't do this because she is confident she is in the right, she does it because she knows, having only ever played the political power game that is Wikipedia like a seasoned pro, there's no chance in hell it would result in anything serious for her. As for the lesser result of a warning, well, you might as well be warning the real Queen of England not to break the law, for all the use it would do.

Because of who she is, and what sort of loser is attracted to Wikipedia, she has a motley crew of hangers on and protectees, who will all happily barrak and insult anyone she catches in her web, or even just casts her evil eye toward. Needless to say, if she makes her presence felt in any proceeding against you, especially if in defence of one of her charges, that's you fucked. It won't matter if you have policy on your side or not. In justifying her countless blocks, if needs be she talks a good game as far as morals and right are concerned, but it's all bullshit. Research the cases she gets involved in, see who she does and doesn't block, and it soon becomes clear, she has no principles, no ethics at all.

What marks her out even from other local warlords though, such is the confidence in her untouchable status, is that rather than reflexively always siding with people she is protecting or allied with, if they've done something sufficiently bad or stupid that it would make her look weak by defending it, she'll be quite vicious in her condemnation. Screw gang affiliation, even friendships, she'll slap them down hard, and they'll take that bitch-slapping, because it doesn't pay to do anything else. It isn't like you can go join a more powerful clique, because there are none. It isn't a sign she actually has principles, just supreme confidence in her position, and a message to others to show just how powerful she is.

Amusingly, for all her tough talk and alpha persona, she's actually quite the whiny little bitch, in common with a lot of other alpha male loud mouths in the Admin corps. She hasn't needed to be for a long time, since she is rarely confronted nowadays with the brown end of any Wikipedia sticks. But the world was treated to a fine example of it when Jimmy Wales himself tried one last time to ensure being an Administrator on Wikipedia actually meant a higher standard of behaviour, by blocking her. Boy did she whine. She was still referring to that great injustice years later. Her ultimate victory in that power play to end all power plays, goes a long way to explaining the current state of Wikipedia now.

What really makes me laugh though, is that because she feels so powerful, she simply cannot resist gobbing off about things she knows fuck all about, simply if doing so achieves one of her objectives (typically to do with reinforcing the ideas in the very first paragraph I wrote). This is the pitfall of not having any folks around who feel brave enough to simply ask, 'What the fuck are you on about you scatty cow?'

What inspired me to kick this thread off, was seeing just another example of such.......
As an additional security measure, admins and editors with similar permissions can (and should) use Special:Two-factor authentication to prevent account hijacking. Sandstein 21:51, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

I really really do not agree, Sandstein. We've had several cases of admins, including technically savvy admins, who have been in despair because they lost their whatsits — I don't remember what they're called — some magic formulas that you need for your account when you have two-factor authentication — and apparently the magic gets lost every time you get a new phone. Ouch. Eventually, after much stress, these people have been rescued through being able to e-mail people who can vouch for them because they recognize the way they talk. (Hello, Jehochman, hope your account is OK these days.) People who habitually edit from internet cafes or library computers, or who have a mischievous twelve-year-old or a hard-drinking sister-in-law around the house, may possibly need the system, but everybody else had much better instead get a really strong password and not use that password anywhere else. In my opinion. Bishonen | talk 22:57, 3 May 2018 (UTC).
What an idiot. She clearly lacks the knowledge to even realise that someone who doesn't know what a scratch code is, will not have any clue what a really strong password even looks like. Her astonishing presumption and general ignorance aside, once done with her anti-WMF shtick (2FA having been sent down from above), she gave away the real reason she doesn't like the idea soon enough.....
Blood-chillingly complicated is right, Dlohcierekim. And it sounds to me like the whole log-in operation, otherwise so smooth, gets much more fiddly with 2FA, every time you do it. That's quite a problem for people with a lot of socks![14] Bishonen | talk 23:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC).
One of the benefits of being Queen Bitch of Wikipedia of course, is the liberty of being allowed to run a whole host of joke accounts. Because they're funny. You know they're funny, because everyone on Wikipedia says so. Just like when everyone agrees the real Queen of England's jokes are hilarious.

Unlike the Queen of England, in truth, I'd say the percentage of people in Wikipedia who would quite like to see Bishonen's head on a pike in the name of the simple rights and dignity of the common people, is close to a third. The place is long overdue that sort of reorganisation. They're all just too scared, or too well off under the current system of feudal patronage, to rise up.

Nobody should feel any guilt, not a single second of remorse, for playing their part in ensuring her eventual downfall, and an as uncomfortable existence as possible in that throne until that is achieved. Because rest assured, if you're the sort of person who reads this forum, if you're the sort of person whose eyes have been opened to the true nature of Wikipedia and the pressing need to fight back, then she wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire. Worse, she would probably watch you die a horrible death, then piss on your smouldering corpse.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by hyatt » Sat May 05, 2018 5:01 pm

Unsurprisingly, Bishonen has a record at GGHQ.

Today at ANI, Bishonen banned a user named Aspencork as a "time sink" for knowing that Freidrich Engels (as in "Marx and Engels") advocated for the extermination of the Slavic people and having the sources to back up his arguments against a slew of deniers who had nothing more than their refusal to accept that a leftist could support genocide.


Roscelese forced a false claim into Wikipedia that Pamela Geller inspired Anders Breivik to commit his massacre. Livingengine1 stood in their way with superior sources and BLP policy, so Jerichoman banned him while Bishonen and Drmies held an insult party on his talk page. It took five unblock requests before someone provided a diff of evidence against him.

Admins rejecting those unblock requests: Yunshui, Ponyo, DangerousPanda, BrownHairedGirl, AnthonyBradbury, and Huon.

Something's up at ANI: <links to offsite attacks removed>
and in a thread about Frank Gaffney and Lavabaron.


… it was just the WiA threads with a pile of ArbCom-quality evidence and a few people in the bleachers munching Cracker Jack while watching Wikipedia sink beneath the waves. There were no "attacks". Wikipedia did that to itself.
and… oh, wow. Bishonen was TRIGGERED!
=== Indefinitely ban Cirt, JzG, Robert McClennon, Beyond My Ken, TheRedPenOfDoom, Doug Weller, and Lavabaron for "sockpuppetry" ===
Why not? Sauce for the gander. 130.157.201.59 (talk) 19:48, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Bishonen also killed an on-point comment by the IP.
Oppose - your so-called consensus was tainted by banning everyone who disagreed with you and threatening further bans of anyone who continued to speak up. Anything postdating Lavabaron's rewrite of these pages should be struck as unreliable. as I said earlier [18] a slew of hit pieces came out when Gaffney became Ted Cruz's national security advisor which all crib from the Wikipedia page which is LavaBaron's opinion.
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Gaffney should be described as a defense analyst, national security analyst, radio host, or something that actually describes his job. 130.157.201.59 (talk) 19:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


Of course the IP was blocked along with everyone else who ever disagreed with LavaBaron.

A year later, LavaBaron was banned as a sockpuppet that was created to violate Wikipedia policies. No apologies were forthcoming to the users banned for opposing his violation of Wikipedia policies.

About the same IP again:
Bishonen deleted an IP's evidence section with the excuse "Rm obvious block evasion (JohnLloydScharf)" because the IP accused the case filer Boing Said Zeebeedee of misusing his tools against JohnLloydScharf.
Bishonen also blocked the IP for a month. How dare you present evidence against the wrong side!


and the same IP again:
WiA: IP editor outlines Darkfrog case, blocked for "trolling"
So it turns out Bishonen was the one who performed the block, even though Bishie is mentioned by name in one of the supposedly sub-respectable edits. Conflict of interest?


Someguy1221 reported new user Ellaqmentry as a "sockpuppet POV pusher." Zero diffs of evidence were presented. (...) JzG and Bishonen blocked (...) with Arthur Rubin and MjolnirPants concurring. MjolnirPants attempted to prove that Ellaqmentry must be a sock by saying "Most of the United States had valid reason to get ready to welcome our first female president a few months ago, for example."


Floquenbeam indeffed Soham321 ‎for requesting that Bishonen be desysopped. This is, apparently, "battleground conduct." As Stuka puts it: "Soham321 was hanged, drawn, and quartered after climbing the Reichstag at AE"


Anmccaff claims to have caught Jytdog and Alexbrn misrepresenting a source and edit warring to reinsert it (...) Bishonen rushes to call for an indefinite block of Anmccaff, followed by QuackGuru, JzG, Beyond My Ken, and Johnuniq supporting a topic ban.


Should Wikipedia state that Darwin never made any reference to human races when it can be proven that he did? (...) Johnuniq took Giesbrecht to ANI and quickly gained the support of Robert McClenon, Bishonen, and JzG. Bishonen blocked Giesbrecht for two weeks, calling it "certainly egregious" that an ordinary user such as Giesbrecht would call out veteran editors on their policy violations.


At ANI the admin corps was especially hard on two newbies for being newbies: 75.175.96.6 who was blocked 48h for bringing an ANI case against Jytdog without knowing what a diff is or how to make one, and Edson Frainlar, an Indian student working under his real name who Bishonen falsely accused of harassment for demanding evidence of other people's accusations of editing in bad faith.

"Other people" seems to be NeilN.

IP stepped on a landmine

Hijiri88 needs a long topic ban from American Politics for comments like "Breitbart.com and other rightist fake news sites" and "the FRC thread, about a Christian fundamentalist, anti-LGBT hate group" which suggest that Hijiri88 is incapable of cooperating with editors with different points of view. Breitbart is a real news source that meets WP:RS. A distaste for its political stances (WP:IDLI) is not grounds for disallowing it or comparing it to Infowars. Anyone who tries to enforce partisan purity on Wikipedia should be blocked as WP:NOTHERE. 71.198.247.231 (talk) 15:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


blocked by Bishonen, Bbb23, Ritchie333, Yamla, and The Blade of the Northern Lights, and Hijiri88 wrapped the comment in a WP:DENY block


Bishonen blocked Keri for calling Drmies a passive-aggressive cunt and also blocked an IP for asking why only one side was blocked. It does look like Keri started it all with that jibe at the "community."


The first victim is McCouchsky who added the unsourced claim that "Susan Rice was confirmed by multiple news sources to have been responsible for the unmasking of democratic party political opponents on April 3 2017." Rather than improve this or request sources, Bishonen indefinitely banned McCouchsky. Yamla, Anthony Bradbury, and Huon rejected McCouchsky's appeals.


JzG and Bishonen, with JamesBWatson concurring, indeffed Ellaqmentry for providing medical sources to support the use of acupuncture as a pain treatment.


ArbCom stuck The Rambling Man with a one-way interaction ban on Bishonen because of two diffs, secret evidence, and secret discussions. Those voting were Euryalus, DGG, Doug Weller, GorillaWarfare, Opabinia regalis, and Mkdw, with everyone else recused or inactive.




In February an IP reported Bishonen and Sitush to ANI for their conduct on the article Phulkian Sardars. Boing! said Zebedee blocked the IP.
Since Bishonen's behavior is the cause of the Rambling Man case, the IP gave his experience. Bbb23 blocked the IP, called it a troll, and revoked its talk page access before it could appeal.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by booksmartjacob » Sun May 06, 2018 2:01 am

his whole "Passing the Torch" thing has always been pretty ridiculous.

It's never really worked out.

Hogan "PASSED THE TORCH" to the Warrior at Wrestlemania 6.

That's why Hulk main evented the next three Wrestlemania's and won.

Austin never passed the torch to anyone but he put Rock over, and by that time Rock was part time and semi-retired.

If you want to call Rock "PASSING THE TORCH to CENA" giving him a Win in one of their two matches you can, though it wouldn't make much sense since Cena had been Champion for over half a decade by this point.


Also the most important thing about this thread...


Who's to say Roman Reigns is going to carry the company?

Sure he's in line for the Rumble-Mania-Big time Main Eventer push, but I am not sold on all in him becoming the new Face of the company.

So before we are sure of that, we can't speculate who's going to "PASS the Torch" and when in my view.


Just my opinion.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by CrowsNest » Tue May 22, 2018 8:43 pm

:lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =842421474

Hilarious on so many levels. She can't even do a simple copyedit without making an error. Then when a Wikipediot instantly reverts, with a clear message which references the error, she doesn't investigate, she assumes the person is just crazy, and leaves a nasty message on the talk page to that effect. Which, incidentally, also contains an error, another apparent goofed copy/paste. Then, once she has finally noticed her first error, she lacks the grace to simply say sorry, but also adds more snark about the reverter, in the process revealing that she would rather the article stay in a state she thinks is incoherent, than have her snark lose its impact.

Just another illustration that Jimmy was right, this woman simply lacks the temperament to be an Administrator. On this evidence, she also lacks the competence or attitude required to be a simple editor. Good for her then, that people are so terrified of her temper and her gang of assholes, they wouldn't dare bring up any of this. She can do things ten times worse than this, and people would still think twice about even mentioning it.

People are so afraid of her, they haven't even replied to her in that temper tantrum section, or taken it upon themselves to make the edit she wants to make, on her behalf. People just don't want to get involved, period. Not sure if that makes her the town drunk, bully or crazy person. Not that there's a good option in that list for her.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by CrowsNest » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:17 pm

The balls on this bitch, really.....

This is her speaking about User:LargelyRecyclable:
.......I'm not sure where this high resentment against me comes from, as I don't edit MILHIST topics. I suppose it's possible there was bad blood between LR's previous, secret, account or accounts[32] and myself; I've no way of knowing that. Bishonen | talk 10:18, 30 May 2018 (UTC).
Um, yes, there is a way of "knowing that", you fucking psycho bitch. See that link [32] you posted? It's a December 2017 confirmation from ArbCom that........

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =811253721
LargelyRecyclable has disclosed his previous accounts to the Arbitration Committee. We've reviewed these accounts and have determined that the LargelyRecyclable account is a legitimate clean start account.
.....so if you really want to know, just fire off an email and ask them.

It's bad enough she seems to think she is entitled to know the full account history of everyone she encounters on Wikipedia, but this nonsense was posted as part of "Evidence" of a perceived enemy's "conduct", right under the noses of ArbCom clerks. They have thus far done nothing to remind her that email is a thing, and that she should hold that thought unless or until she avails herself of it.

You can see why she wouldn't want to know for sure, it's a clear lose-lose situation, character wise. But putting it out there in this fashion, it is yet again a signal to everyone of her power. She can say what she wants, where she wants, how she wants.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:56 pm

For completeness, Bish was also recently mentioned as a "combatant" in the Cassianto mess:
https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/vie ... 4315#p4315

From the book wiki's Giano article:
When he is not writing articles on English stately homes (which he insists on calling 'country houses') Giano spends much of his time on the talk page of his Wiki girl friend wikipedia:user:Bishonen where they blather on like a pair of middle-aged drag queens. If Wikipedia were a TV station, it would mostly be like MTV full of rappers with bling and rock stars and other characters, but the station would have a posh channel where middle-aged people like Giano and Bishonen discussed antiques and painting and opera. No one would actually watch this channel but the station keeps it running to give it a classy image.

(Note: Bishonen has been "outed" in the past as being Andrea J. Faulds, a transgender woman from Scotland who operates the vanity website ajf.me and runs numerous sockpuppet accounts on Wikipedia. Her "open" account is Ajfweb. [1][2] This cannot be verified, although it was heavily discussed by Gamergaters in the 2014-15 time period.)
Don't start me on Giano. Please.
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Re: Bishonen

Post by CrowsNest » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:31 am

Unless that person has strong links to Sweden, I'd say it's innacurate. Although it does otherwise seem to fit - the schizophrenic use of joke accounts, the suppressed aggression, the need to control how others think about certain topics like social policy, and the menacing tone when she is actually wanting to warn someone - less about friendly advice, more of a threat couched in 'don't you know who I am and what I can do to you' terms. That last one is very Scottish, at least to those over a certain age. Ironically the young Scots tend to be more progressive and tolerant, probably more so even than the Swedes.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by CrowsNest » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:50 pm

You might consider including an explanation of why you didn't warn Calton and give him a chance to self-revert, something I already brought up,[13] which you haven't mentioned anywhere. It's definitely best practice, and you may want to consider it another time. Bishonen | talk 11:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC).
The reason I didn't ask Calton to self-revert is because that editor has told me to leave them alone and has been about as intolerant my suggestions as any editor here, ever. Literally every time I have interacted with them they have told me to fuck off. I don't think I can recall a single time Calton has ever disagreed with anyone and behaved in a constructive manner. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 15:59, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
And unsurprisingly, that is where this branch of a much larger discussion between the two ended.

Bishonen couldn't very well continue it, since, true to form, she's been a very big part of the reason why Calton behaves that way.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =658964667

One of the good guys indeed.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by Simplification » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:34 am

List is probably larger than that. There are about a few more incidents that haven't been mentioned here. Exactly, the on-going support for Calton's disruption on ARE is just another evidence though Bishonen may soon chime in to rescue him and most likely support sanction on the filer.

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Re: Bishonen

Post by CrowsNest » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Any opportunity eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =851611649

You wouldn't believe she once said she actually accepted she had done wrong, would you? Not sure what her position is on it now. She never mentions the reason for the block, only that it happened. Just to remind everybody of her victory.

She needs to see a therapist, it's clear she has unresolved Daddy issues or something.

In other news, she recently said this.....
a difficult thing is certainly that sinking feeling when I wake up in the night and realise I've probably been unfair or made a mistake. Sometimes it can be fixed, but not always.
What a fucking liar. I am quite sure she sleeps soundly, nothing about her Wikipedia life troubles her. The implication of this comment was that she has ever reflected and changed her ways. She has not. She has never needed to. That is why she is so proud of her victory over Jimmy.

The only thing keeping her awake, clearly, is her unresolved issues with Jimmy. Give it up girl. He is not going to apologise, and what irks her obviously, is that he has no need to, whatever the reality on the ground, in the swamp she now rules over. History has shown Jimmy to be right, being lenient on conduct like that, from the so called trusted governators of the wiki, was always going to produce the corrupt shithole it has become today, where all that matters is power.

She blazed the trail for utter fuckwits like Ritchie to become Administrators, and for utter bastards like John to remain as one, and for both to even be talked of in glowing terms by the inferior servant class, out of pure fear or a desire to be under their protection, like they don't violate policy or be general dicks on a daily basis.

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