There'sNoTime

[CrowsNest]

There'sNoTime, or TNT to her time-poor friends, has no more time for Wikipedia. She cites feeling "feeling pretty overwhelmed with personal things", which is yet another sign that the only women who do seem to survive on Wikipedia, are those who would never say such a thing in the first place.

Speculation is rampant on that so called critic site Wikipediocracy, that she has been harassed into retirement by the butthurt wikifriends of Jytdog, who resent the fact the ArbCom Case she kicked off against him, saw him get a long overdue attitude correction. He ran for the hills rather than face the music, and plenty of Wikipediots are pissed because of it.

Maybe this is the reason, and maybe they're gullible enough to buy into it. Me, I remember this person as someone who had a chance to take a stand against this sort of behaviour more than a year ago, and in her wisdom, she decided to side with those who value Wikipedia's interests above those of real people. I don't forget those people. They are the real enemy, more so than the people simply doing it. Every mistake made on Wikipedia is reversible, until it is made evident it has "consensus".

What I think is very poor behaviour, which also has the potential to affect people's real lives, is that with all this speculation going on at Wikipediocracy, despite being aware of it, she's done nothing to confirm or deny it, in either place. While that may be what the Preventing and Reducing Harassment Handbook says to do in her own best interests, she willingly chose to be a part of both places, so she cannot now divorce herself from the responsibility of shutting that shit down, one way or the other.

Jytdog is blocked, but in being blocked he did not sign a waiver releasing everyone on Wikipedia of their obligations to treat him with decency, as so many Wikipedians seem to think is what a block does. If his followers are not the cause of her retirement, if he is not the cause of her retirement, he is owed that denial. And if it is the opposite, the victims are owed the public airing of this truth. Of their truth. Of Wikipedia's truth.

Here's hoping these personal issues are a result of a complete and total re-examination of her life choices, a reflection on what she was a part of for so long, and how she can pay off that debt to society. In my experience, we critics are rarely so lucky.

We are cursed to never forget, and watch them never learn.

HTD.

[Graaf Statler]

Here's hoping these personal issues are a result of a complete and total re-examination of her life choices, a reflection on what she was a part of for so long, and how she can pay off that debt to society. In my experience, we critics are rarely so lucky.

We are cursed to never forget, and watch them never learn.

HTD.

So do I and I complete agree. The fox huntings, stewards die niet als een ander zijn like TBloeming, Jurgen-NL, SjoerddeBruin, a gender bitch and witch as horny baby snatcher Trijnstel with here horny wink to little Ymnes, she must have known this. She must've known about Moira-NL troll bot, the always willing help of the stewards on Meta. In short, she must have known about the corruption in Meta.

Pay your dept TNT, in a nursing home, by rescuing street kittens, I don't care, but pay your debt. Pay your debt for your years of your sewer swimming, and you too Molly! Wash the shit off.

[CrowsNest]

Still got time to comment on the ArbCom election results at Wikipediocracy......

Couple of good names in there (wb GorillaWarfare! <3), hopefully some who would have dealt with the Jytdog case properly.

Still deliberately not confirming or denying these allegations that Jytdog or his supporters are the cause of her personal issues.

Still not even bothering to answer messages left for her on Wikipedia, messages like this.....

I was alarmed a couple of days ago when I was looking at the Deletion Log and saw you deleting all of your subpages. Not a good sign.

I hope real life settles down and that you return after an extended WikiBreak. I know I appreciate this place more after I was away for a year. It helps put conflicts and disputes in the correct perspective (they are not worth the aggravation!). Peace.

Liz Read! Talk! 00:31, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Just gonna leave Liz hanging like that?

Hopefully not.

Liz at least was brave enough tell her truth in public, as seen in this post on Wikipediocracy......

Dealing with a lot of life changes (death, disease, moving) and have not been in a "mediating conflict" frame of mind until recently. When I have thought about Wikipedia over the past 2 years, I just think of certain people attacking me (I'm not playing the victim, just being realistic) but I think I have returned to being on an even keel. Maybe I can find a place somewhere on the site where I can contribute where I don't have a target on my back.

....so it sounds like they might have a few things in common. Then again, maybe they don't. I've never seen Liz do the things TNT does.

Not that the good people of Wikipediocracy did anything about it. Except, of course, welcome her nemesis Eric Corbett with open arms. No wonder that was her only post to the forum in two years.

[Graaf Statler]

Both TNT and Molly should leave the complete wiki world and make a complete and total re-examination of there life choices as you mentioned before. For both lady's that should be so much better.
No Wikipedia, Meta and Wikipediocrazy sewer swimming at all anymore. Because, to change the wikipedia sewer for the wikipediocrazy sewer doesn't solve anything. You are still swimming in the same sewer, what is simple not good for them. And it solves nothing, because the same total idiots are still your company.

[Dysklyver]

Mhmm. I kinda like TNT. This is mostly based on some things that happened in late 2017, (no details sry there's an NDA), but then nothing much has happened since to change my view. Regarding the latest events, I don't really know, and haven't actually asked, so maybe it's Jytdog, and maybe it's something completely different. However they will still be a steward and appear to be only stepping back from the English Wikipedia at this time.

[Graaf Statler]

So? And didn't we had this year such a Meta fox hunting on Paul Bedson, staring Ymens and the Stewards? Didn't we had this year the Whaledad- Tonytrollonie drama on Meta with even a Dutch arbcom request, and with staring his best friend horny Trijnstel from who he had his info about Whaly? And even Drmies himself involved on WQNL! Come on, Arthur, this is not old stuff!!

And i am not saying Molly is not nice, or TNT or Timmy, but we are talking about a sick and corrupt system. Tonytroillony is even a global CU now! And do you really think all problems are now solved by turning down Ymnes, Moira-NL trol bot and not making Drmies-USA trollbot a arb?