https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schietpartij_in_Utrecht


In English:
https://nltimes.nl/2019/03/18/dutch-pm- ... ck-utrecht

There has been a attack in Holland, but what hat exact happend we still don't know. ,



It can be a terroristic attack, but we still don't know. And the Dutch wiki community did the only right thing, just one line what happend.

De goede dingen moesten ook gezegd worden vind ik.

O, o, only a few edits and already it went wrong.




And makes it here even worser, he changed also the text.He change shooting for attack.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... d=53423892


But what has Rutte really said?


Rutte said it is not clear if it is a terroristic attack, but is possible, but absolute not that it is a terroristic attack what Gretzs gives as the reason to rename the page. They simple can't read!

I store the change case they delete the page.

Op 18 maart 2019 vond er een '''schietpartij in de [[Nederland (hoofdbetekenis)|Nederlandse]] stad [[Utrecht (stad)|Utrecht]]''' plaats=>Op 18 maart 2019 vond er een '''aanslag in de [[Nederland (hoofdbetekenis)|Nederlandse]] stad [[Utrecht (stad)|Utrecht]] (Versie van 18 mrt 2019 om 15:20)

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Om ongeveer 10:45(CET), vond er een schietpartij plaats in een tram op de kruising van 24 Oktoberplein Utrecht. The aanvaller zou gevlucht zijn in een rode Renault Clio. De politie houd momenteel een klopjacht op de aanvaller. De politie heeft een foto gedeeld van een 37 jaar oude in Turkije geboren man, omdat hij een verdachte is van de aanval.
Drie personen zijn overleden. 9 personen zijn gewond geraakt, waarvan 3 zwaar. De gewonden zijn getransporteerd naar het Universitair Medisch Centrum Utrecht in Utrecht.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aanslag_in_Utrecht CC BY-SA 0.3

This is the latest news and the police helicopters are flying over my house at the moment..... 3 dead, 9 persons wounded and if this was a terroristic attack this is in no time world news...
Something we still not know. But I am afraid it is.

And notice this:



It's 16.00 local time and in the wiki-article it is a attack. From 15.20 on. And that is the reason Wikipedia sucks. You have wait before you write such a article at least a few weeks.

And notice the citations of the article , you won't believe. Three times it written nothing is for sure yet. Even in the English source it is correct. All sources are correct, except wikipedia.

noten en/of referenties
↑ (nl) "Gewonden door schoten in tram Utrecht, terroristisch motief niet uitgesloten", 2019-03-18.
↑ (nl) "NCTV: vermoedelijk terroristische aanslag, schutter nog voortvluchtig", 2019-03-18.
↑ https://twitter.com/GemeenteUtrecht/sta ... 44/video/1
↑ Gewonden door schoten in tram Utrecht, terroristisch motief niet uitgesloten NOS.nl, 18 maart 2019
↑ 'Possible terror motive' as one dead in Dutch tram shooting

Puddinheads!

Een schietpartij is if a few criminals are shooting in a street, een aanslag is if someone has the plan to attack, a terroristic attack. But they don't understand, They understand nothing, they only can copy blind second sources.

Ah, five wounded. Almost 100% wrong. Wikipedia, isn't it?


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Well, it is downgraded in the Dutch newspapers to Een terroristisch motief kan niet worden uitgesloten. It is possible his motive was terroristic.
The offender is a from Turkish origin criminal with a long, long criminal record. Anything is possible, maybe he was just stoned and something made him angry. Friends of him told in the press he is complete nuts.
It is impossible to write a article in the middle of a chaotic situation. It is still not clear what is going on, but the wikipedia guys are convinced, it was a attack. First where nine people wounded, and now five.
It is complete madness. The press conference start now, 18.30 local time and maybe we learn now more. But all the day Wikipedia had already a article.



https://www.ad.nl/dossier-schietpartij- ... ~af608212/

Why, why, why can't they wait till the facts are clear? Probably it is honor killing, a shame crime. It was a drugdealer, a gamer, a idiot.
Tried to kill his girlfriend, and killed people who tried to help her.

https://www.ad.nl/dossier-schietpartij- ... ~aab0a880/
https://www.ad.nl/dossier-schietpartij- ... ~a7fe17ec/


And all this makes Wikipedia so foolish, wait till the facts are clear! Don't try in the middle of the chaos to write a article, it is foolish. And now? Well, I think they wait till the garbage man comes by to clean up there wikishit. Because that is normal.

This is the Wikipedia WMF wants, this is what Maher want, this is where the donor are crying and give there money for.
For sure i had intervent, just like I did by the Brussel tragedy.

Here. At 19:23 ErikvanB, a sympathic guy by the way has done the only right thing:

ErikvanB heeft pagina Aanslag in Utrecht op 18 maart 2019 hernoemd naar Beschieting in Utrecht (18 maart 2019): tijdelijke titel

Shooting, temporary title. Why is this correct? Because as I told before it is still complete unclear what the motivation of this guy was to shoot and to murder and I think the Dutch wikipedians have read this topic. The police action is still going on, three other man are just before arrested. it is still a warzone there at the moment.
It was incident what draw international attention. Logical after what happend in New Sealand. A article of such a event has to be correct from the first moment on in my opinion.You need relabel source, it is absolute possible it was a attack but till now we don't know. Wikipedia is not a crystal bowl.
That is the way I always wrote my articles. But that is not very appreciated by WMF and the community..