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Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:22 pm
by JuiceBeetle
Kumioko's main account is currently blocked to avoid the 30 huffish comments / day spam, that was going on before I blocked him.
He can post (with approval) at any time using his Perseus account, but refuses to do so.

After I blocked him, he wrote pages and pages on discord, of how the moderators support CrowsNest's abuse (Do you hear this, Crow?), and how the mods lie, manipulate, and similar abusive nonsense, just to avoid taking responsibility for his own actions.
In the last week this venting has calmed down, and Kumi occasionally participates constructively in discussions, therefore I'm considering to give him what he wants, but would never ask for (and another chance): unblocking his main account.

If there is support for this from a few contributors, I will do so. Please share your votes, and opinion. CrowsNest's "heavily involved" opinion will be read, but won't influence the outcome.

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:40 pm
by CrowsNest
JuiceBeetle wrote:Kumioko's main account is currently blocked to avoid the 30 huffish comments / day spam, that was going on before I blocked him.
He can post (with approval) at any time using his Perseus account, but refuses to do so.

After I blocked him, he wrote pages and pages on discord, of how the moderators support CrowsNest's abuse (Do you hear this, Crow?), and how the mods lie, manipulate, and similar abusive nonsense, just to avoid taking responsibility for his own actions.
In the last week this venting has calmed down, and Kumi occasionally participates constructively in discussions, therefore I'm considering to give him what he wants, but would never ask for (and another chance): unblocking his main account.

If there is support for this from a few contributors, I will do so. Please share your votes, and opinion. CrowsNest's "heavily involved" opinion will be read, but won't influence the outcome.
All I hear is you whining about having had to deal with something I TOLD YOU WOULD HAPPEN.

I won't be telling you what will happen if you unblock him, even though everyone here knows what will happen, eventually. I'm just going to sit back and laugh, because you deserve what he will do. You deserve to be the person who gets the blame for utterly ruining this place even more than you already have, and having the brass balls to pretend like you were doing me a favour in the process.

Kumioko calms down, eventually, because he's a desperate addict and a very sad man with zero dignity and self respect. And ultimately because what he does in those episodes is the product of actual, literal, mania. Couldn't stop himself even if he tried.

I am everything he is not. You're paying the price for not listening to me. And you will keep paying it, until you admit your mistake and take the necessary corrective action. Then I will respect you. Kumioko doesn't respect you, and never will. But he's not above playing nice with people he hates if there's something in it for him. A Wikipedian to his core. He will play you like he has played you before.

This is not a negotiation. This is not a play. This is real. You don't got shit I need, and even less that I want. You are the problem, you can fix it any time you like.

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:44 pm
by Carrite
CrowsNest wrote:This is not a negotiation. This is not a play. This is real. You don't got shit I need, and even less that I want. You are the problem, you can fix it any time you like.


I'd call that bluff.

Kumioko was the recipient of non-stop tag team harassment from Don Quixote and Sancho Panza. Despite this he remained less out of control with the shrieking and the shit-flinging than Crow and more productive than Sancho (by a factor of 10, outside of Sancho's superior output of LARGE COLORED TYPE, bellowed obscenities, and train photos). Crow wins the disruptive spam contest as well.

Crow remains the better long term participant. However, he is so out of control whenever Kumioko is here that you've either got a choice of moderating both of them hard or keeping Kumioko out altogether, in my opinion.

My two cents.

RfB

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:13 pm
by JuiceBeetle
Thank you for your input, Carrite.

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:31 pm
by CrowsNest
What, I'm not allowed to share my input now? Even after you said you read it?

Too embarrassing for you Juice, to be reminded of your failures?

Too bad.

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Carrite wrote:he remained less out of control with the shrieking and the shit-flinging than Crow.
He literally lied about what an Administrator said, not even caring to get the right Administrator, and then when called on it, doubled and tripled down, as a last Hail Mary to get something, anything, brown and sticky, to land on me. And he's cried for two straight weeks because his plan didn't work. Even after his history of miserable failure in all of his campaigns (except the highly successful volunteer for Wikipedia for zero credit scheme), he was apparently still stupid enough to believe this time it would work.

He's a threat to any forum stupid enough to let him post. Juice can't do anything to prevent it happening again, or something equally stupid, hence why it's gonna be so entertaining to watch him think he can. Stupid fuck genuinely deserves it. Karma.

We are night and day.

You know how hilarious it's gonna be, reminding Kumioko of all the crazy stupid shit he said and did, if he ever does accept being unblocked without any admission they did him wrong? He'll fucking flip his biscuits before a week has passed.

Juice can retain my respect with a few simple acts. I'm not crazy, I'm just not a punk ass bitch. I certainly 'aint no sad little victim.

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:33 pm
by JuiceBeetle
One post per person, Crow, to keep it focused and on-topic. Your opinion is tolerated here, but we don't want multiples of it.

Crow wrote:He literally lied about what an Administrator said, not even caring to get the right Administrator

Yes, he did, and lied about many other things. Write it at the beginning of your first post. There's little chance, that people will read your consecutive hate-filled walls of text.

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:23 am
by ericbarbour
Where on Discord?

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:35 am
by JuiceBeetle
ericbarbour wrote:Where on Discord?

This specific instance was here on the forum:
https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1435&p=14136#p14130
On discord he mostly lied / tried to manipulate about me.

Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:19 am
by JuiceBeetle
Kumioko's main account is unblocked as of today, thanks to no less than Eric Barbour's support.
Eric Barbour wrote:I have no objection, just as long as we don't get more Kumioko/etc. screaming......


Welcome back, Kumioko main!
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Re: Kumioko posting as Perseus until further decision

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:08 am
by Graaf Statler
Never understood why you had Kum at all.