Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

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Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

Post by oranges33 » Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:55 pm

archive.org lost a major lawsuit. It wasn't directly related to the wayback machine, but archive.org needs funding and staff to upkeep access to petabytes of data.

nothing lasts forever, including archive.org

it might be worth it to backup your favorite archive.org content either on a personal drive or on archive.today

ideally archive.org survives this and also comes up with a way for people to text search what is likely the most valuable collection of non-scientific info on the web.
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Re: Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

Post by rubricatedseedpod » Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:00 pm

Do they have it in a static format, or will it just dissappear without trace if they close shop?
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Re: Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

Post by oranges33 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:21 pm

rubricatedseedpod wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:00 pm
Do they have it in a static format, or will it just dissappear without trace if they close shop?
I know just as much as you do about how they store their data. There's been public speculation about what could happen to the data if they closed shop. The main issue is the dataset is so large it's not possible to offer a backup of the entire thing to random people. In recent weeks, archive.org has gone temporarily offline due to random individual scrapers overloading the system trying to back things up if the worst case scenario happens.

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Re: Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

Post by rubricatedseedpod » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:01 pm

oranges33 wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:21 pm
In recent weeks, archive.org has gone temporarily offline due to random individual scrapers overloading the system trying to back things up if the worst case scenario happens.
A covid toilet roll scenario then.
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Re: Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

Post by SkepticalHistorian » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:50 pm

oranges33 wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:55 pm

it might be worth it to backup your favorite archive.org content either on a personal drive or on archive.today
How do you back up archive.org content to Drive or a Wordpress website? I’d like to make a Wordpress page of my Wikipedia user page and sandbox that was completely deleted, not blanked! 😡 Fortunately it was saved to archive.org.

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Re: Not a bad time to backup your favorite archive.org content

Post by oranges33 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:39 pm

SkepticalHistorian wrote:
Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:50 pm
oranges33 wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 7:55 pm

it might be worth it to backup your favorite archive.org content either on a personal drive or on archive.today
How do you back up archive.org content to Drive or a Wordpress website? I’d like to make a Wordpress page of my Wikipedia user page and sandbox that was completely deleted, not blanked! 😡 Fortunately it was saved to archive.org.
Most browsers have a 'save page' option, which you can use either on the original page or the wayback machine backup. It saves the page in such a way that you can browse it on your disk.

However, if you want to save something that might be of legal use later, it's a better idea to re-archive the original page on archive.today. Or if that's not possible to re-archive the original page on archive.today.

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