A little musing about history

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A little musing about history

Post by eltomas2003 » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:02 pm

Stalin was arguably worse than Hitler.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Purge
Yet people don’t bat an eye to Stalin’s atrocities, because Stalin was part of our team.

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Re: A little musing about history

Post by ericbarbour » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:18 am

eltomas2003 wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:02 pm
Stalin was arguably worse than Hitler.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Purge
Yet people don’t bat an eye to Stalin’s atrocities, because Stalin was part of our team.
It's not unusual. Chinggis Khan (you're not supposed to spell it "Genghis" anymore, apparently it "offends" someone) and his Golden Horde are claimed to have murdered millions in China alone. From Wikipedia:
It has been estimated that approximately 11% of the world's population was killed either during or immediately after the Turco-Mongol invasions (around 37.75 - 60 million people genocide in Eurasia, out of which at least 35 million deaths were in China).[46] If the calculations are accurate, the events would be the deadliest acts of mass killings in human history.
Of course, all of Asian history is littered with attempts to wipe out whole nations and ethnic groups. Europe wasn't much different. How the despots are regarded by history usually relates to their political connections to powerful modern-day countries. And Khan and his descendants are still regarded as "heroes" in much of central Asia.
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Re: A little musing about history

Post by eltomas2003 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:13 pm

Of course, all of Asian history is littered with attempts to wipe out whole nations and ethnic groups. Europe wasn't much different. How the despots are regarded by history usually relates to their political connections to powerful modern-day countries. And Khan and his descendants are still regarded as "heroes" in much of central Asia.
Then why this double standard between europe and asia?
Japan was just as bad as germany, probably even worse than germany atrocitywise, yet america basically sanitized and swept the skeletons under the rug for japan. But america and the allied forces went all in with germany's prosecution.
Hitler only did the final solution because nobody else wanted the jews. Yet another proof that people are willing to create monsters so that they can fight them and play the hero.
Hitler was anti-communist and if he was still alive at the wars end, maybe america would let him off because he would have supported America's anti-stalin agenda akin to hirohito being relieved of any charges because he was anti-communist.
Of course, all of Asian history is littered with attempts to wipe out whole nations and ethnic groups.
In fact all of america's history is littered with attempts of subduing and preferably exterminating anyone who wasn't white. Nobody really bats an eye to that as well. The nuclear bombings in japan would have been considered an atrocity under the axis's perspective.


America: Nazis bad
Also America: Recruits Nazi scientists and gives them safe haven.
Proof that life and death in the hands of the rulers depends on being able to support their agenda.

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