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Guardian ties itse!f in knots over antisemitic cartoon

Post by Boink Boink » Thu May 04, 2023 11:19 am

Always fun to watch Wikipedia and Jimmy Wales' favourite and perhaps even only "reliable source" so perfectly mirror each other.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... tin-rowson

Busted for publishing a cartoon with anti-Semitic tropes.

Their explanations are incredible, the apologies are insincere and transparently being done for political reasons, the left still struggling to convince people not already firmly in the left wing that they're not closet antisemites.

It's beyond obvious that at the very least, subconscious bias is the reason this happened. So obvious the Guardian at least devotes a line to the possibility. No more than that though. Don't want to commit themselves to anything that could prove difficult, if not impossible, like Wikipedia being seen as we!coming to women. Or Jews.

It will happen again in some form, even if they manage to implement a process that says cartoons targeting alleged crony capitalism get a more detailed check for not so hidden meaning.

It's also beyond obvious nothing will actually change (other than the Guardian getting better at hiding their subconscious biases rather than addressing them) since it is entirely in the gift of The Guardian to decide for themselves how and when they have failed and when apologies and reflections are due. Not exactly a recipe for change in people with clear conscious biases and unresolved unconscious biases.

Hilarious that the Guardian thinks it entirely unimportant, a complete coincidence, that the cartoonist and former BBC Chairman went to the same school. I guess the crony capitalist network isn't half as powerful a draw as the cu!t of blaming others for your own failings, the Jews being a prime target. Unconscious bias at work, right there in their apology!

Wikipedia's tendency toward Jew tagging will have course been an additional way the cartoonist and Guardian editors will have subconsciously already known that Sharp was a Jew, and presumably what they mean when they say that this little known piece of information was otherwise "knowable".

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Re: Guardian ties itse!f in knots over antisemitic cartoon

Post by Bbb23sucks » Thu May 04, 2023 11:44 am

What does this have to do with the left? Why do you think 'the left' is universally anti-Semitic? Why are some 'l's replaced with '!'s?
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Re: Guardian ties itse!f in knots over antisemitic cartoon

Post by ericbarbour » Thu May 04, 2023 6:36 pm

HA HA. What priceless twattery. Guardian's "official house bias" has been left-leaning but cowardly when shit hits the fan. This time they flung the turds. Can't blame some deplorable right-wing antisemite....

A large part of this situation is because so many Western leftists are angry at the Netanyahu regime, which has been abusing Palestinians (and building settlements on land belonging to Palestinian Arabs) whenever no one's looking. Which sometimes makes leftists look anti-semitic. When caught, they splutter, then they apologize and whimper, because the pro-Israel lobby is even more ruthless and brutal. And better at guilt-tripping others.

It would be great if a journalist would show some balls, and ask Jimbo what he thinks of this little mess. Watch HIM splutter for once.

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Re: Guardian ties itse!f in knots over antisemitic cartoon

Post by Boink Boink » Thu May 04, 2023 11:25 pm

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Thu May 04, 2023 11:44 am
What does this have to do with the left?
Quite a lot.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552

And for all the claims the party has changed, only last week a black Labour MP sent a letter to The Guardian that basically said Jews don't have it half as bad as black people, arguing the Jews never suffered anything as bad as being transported across an ocean in manicles. Cue uproar.

The claim by the MP that this was a mistaken first draft of a letter that was never meant for publishing, was of course laughable. Obvious lie is obvious, or worse, the truth raises major questions. And of course, as with the cartoon controversy, there is clearly something about The Guardian's editorial process that prevents them seeing anti-Semitism in proposed content and raising the alarm before they hit publish.

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Re: Guardian ties itse!f in knots over antisemitic cartoon

Post by SkepticalHistorian » Fri May 05, 2023 8:51 pm

Daily Mail re-published the cartoon: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Sharp.html
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Re: Guardian ties itse!f in knots over antisemitic cartoon

Post by Bbb23sucks » Fri May 05, 2023 9:03 pm

SkepticalHistorian wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 8:51 pm
Daily Mail re-published the cartoon: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Sharp.html
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I'm confused about what the cartoon is trying to depict, could someone explain? I'm assuming the Jewish caricature is the man on the left.
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