That Metapedia-RationalWiki post is up finally.....

[Strelnikov]

http://wikipedia-sucks-badly.blogspot.c ... pedia.html

I think that I'll hit RationalWiki again in the future, so there is no conclusion to that part.....

[ericbarbour]

This is great, because it shows how all roads lead back to Jimbo's Folly. You can blame all kinds of "unintended side effects" on Wikipedia, including racist, right-wing and just plain cruel wikis. Created because someone didn't like Wikipedia, and ended up using MediaWiki software (despite being the "tool of the devil").

Thank you David Gerard, you slime.

[Flip Flopped]

Barbour's conclusion is perfect. I'm looking forward to the future RW post.

The photos really helped the piece. Worth so many words.

[Strelnikov]

This is great, because it shows how all roads lead back to Jimbo's Folly. You can blame all kinds of "unintended side effects" on Wikipedia, including racist, right-wing and just plain cruel wikis. Created because someone didn't like Wikipedia, and ended up using MediaWiki software (despite being the "tool of the devil").

Thank you David Gerard, you slime.

He lives up to "Bargain-basement Nosferatu" or "Assisted-Living Dracula." I don't think I drove it home hard enough that Metapedia doesn't need Wikipedia, but RationalWiki is boned without Jimbo's Jungle; they need Wikipedia's culture to live off of.


Above, another example of an outfit that lived off of
premade stuff, 5 Minutes To Live.com.

[Strelnikov]

Barbour's conclusion is perfect. I'm looking forward to the future RW post.

The photos really helped the piece. Worth so many words.

The impression you get reading Metapedia is that the people writing it are all movie Nazi SS officers, when the reality is that it's written by a rag-tag collection of shop clerks, semi-unemployables, and a hard-right ex-Parliamentarian. Their photos say all that without words.

Thanks!

[Strelnikov]

:!:

Strelnikov, is there any chance you could stop the digital stalking, doxing and harassment?

The Encylopedia Dramatica links you quote on your blog are defamatory, hence Gregory Lauder-Frost's ED article was deleted after he/or an associate of his threatened Michael D. Saurez (Michaeldsuarez aka JuniusThaddeus) with legal action; Michael (a sysop on ED) is the person who wrote it. Michael then deleted it after he saw the legal complaint. Furthermore, as far as I am aware Gregory gave no one permission to identify him as "Cicero" (his former Metapedia username), so he was doxed (and so changed his screen-name to try to remain anonymous) by Michael.

Similar to Frost, after I complained about all the lies Michael was writing about me, as well as the fact he was stealing private photos and uploading them, he deleted my ED article; later in an email Michael D. Suarez apologized to all the people over the years he has harassed (including myself). ED as a website is meant to be for satire and "lolz", but Michael used it to vilify, smear and dox people, with the purpose to destroy their online reputations via Google searches e.g. search someone' name and all sorts of false allegations and misinformation come up. He's perm-banned from both Wikipedia and Rationalwiki for this reason since he used ED to attack editors from those wikis. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWi ... haddeus.29

My ED article was temporarily deleted, but against Michael's wishes it was restored by someone else, then re-written by a troll from Kiwi Farms (his/her ED account has the name Kiwi in it.) Since my ED article was never perm deleted, Google.uk as well as other major search-engines (Bing) has since blocked/de-indexed it, after I sent a legal complaint about defamation. Later, Kiwi Farms deleted their thread on me and they also deleted my Lolcow.wiki article (that was written by Michael D. Saurez as yet another hit-piece; Michael throughout 2016 was stalking me across the web creating many smear articles on me), you even link to the deleted Lolcow article.

So most the links on your blog article are no longer active; Basileus' is also deleted. Why bother?

As for the photo you posted of me, that comes from ED: all the photos of me on my ED article were stolen by Michael D. Suarez, these were taken from a semi-private photobucket (most over a decade old) that didn't even belong to me, but another family member. I gave no one permission to use or copy any of these. This was Suarez stalking not only me, but my family. At one point he even edited my ED article to have one of the brothers in the title.

Do you think any of the above is acceptable? If so you must be a very sick individual.

I get you don't like Metapedia, nor do I, but do you have the decency to stop the doxing and regurgitating Michael Suarez's misinformation? You seem to be using Michael D. Suarez as a "source" - a guy who has since deleted all his articles, admitted he was writing lies about people, and has apologized. I no longer even have a problem with him since he saw the errors of his ways and has stopped misusing ED to attack people, although apparently this was only after he got doxed himself and he was worrying about people suing him. You're linking though to all his deleted hit-piece articles he is now ashamed of. Also, no one gave you permission to use photos or real names.

[img]https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/thumb/e/ee/Metapedia_logo.jpg/150px-Metapedia_logo.jpg[/img]

Another point, I edited Metapedia 4-5 years ago. My account was deleted in 2013 and I never returned. Why is it relevant to even mention me? Previously, as I pointed out in another post on this forum: I'm an ex-sysop at Rationalwiki. So I edited both Metapedia & Rationalwiki, as well as Conservapedia (and other wiki). I've never supported many of their political viewpoints. I tended to stick with science articles on these wikis and occasionally I still edit Rationalwiki such as today on population genetics http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Racialism (yes, its Mikemikev who shows up there trolling, and was banned on yet another sock a few hours ago.) The way your blog post is written is misleading and potentially libellous: I'm not a Neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier or anything you write, or think about Metapedia. You seem to be saying that someone who edits Metapedia must agree with their politics, or someone who edits Rationalwiki agrees with them on everything and so on. Obviously not, otherwise I wouldn't have edited both at the same time, and been a sysop on both when they have opposing viewpoints, the same applies to Conservapedia. Anyway, there's a good reason to suspect Metapedia and its offshoot Rightpedia are parodies or controlled opposition: both wikis only have 2 or 3 active editors, and their goal is to demonise genuine nationalism with the 14/88, racialism, Hitler-fetish and Holocaust denial stupidity. Why? Because these things are barmy to the ordinary public and won't gain political power. This video hits the nail on the head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip-ec61xuIE The political route nationalists should take is right-wing populism; I said this when I was on Metapedia (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Metapedia# ... Rightpedia) which is why I also never once made a post on Jews and said to stop the anti-Semitism (Jared Taylor has done something similar which is why he accept Jews in his organisation, although by no means am I a fan of his), so I was ahead of the curve on this, since many nationalists have now taken up populism (on sensible issues that can actually win elections) especially after Brexit, and observing the electoral successes of Front National, Swedish Democrats etc. by them softening their image and dropping the anti-Semitic nonsense/fascist baggage. Instead you have Metapedia morons like Mikemikev who think walking around doing Nazi salutes, screaming "cuck", claiming black people have small brains and promoting a tin-foil hat conspiracy theory of world Jewry is somehow the way forward for nationalism; these things of course do not win votes or popular support (hence ANTIFA actually love nationalists to promote this stuff as its electoral suicide and makes nationalism a clown show.) In a nutshell that is one of the main reasons why there was a schism in 2013 and why I left the Metapedia site after clashing with Mikemikev. If there was a nationalist wiki free from the anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and racialist cranks like Mikemikev, I would join. However there is none. So I don't have a wiki "home" to speak; I stopped editing Wikipedia years back and above as mentioned only occasionally edit a few Rationalwiki science articles.

I don't necessarily want to be hostile to this forum or you specifically; I just think you are misinformed by using sources like Michael D. Suarez.

Rome Viharo

And all I can say to your article saying Rome Viharo was an actual victim of harassment on Wikipedia is: For which there exists no evidence. He just got banned for trolling a talk-page, then instead of moving on with his life (and accepting his ban like an ordinary person), created an entire website as "paypack" to slander those editors he holds responsible for banning him. Even if there is by some miracle evidence that he has been harassed - what Viharo has faced online is completely mild compared to the extensive harassment campaign I've had to deal with for the last year as outlined above, and that Michael D. Suarez has apologized for. Unlike Viharo, I didn't create a whole website to whine about harassment like a cry-baby.

So you are Atlantid, aka Oliver D. Smith?

Encyclopadia Dramatica deleted articles because ED is being sued, not because of pressure. I am not a troll, I do not reveal addresses....this is actual journalism. If you don't like people writing about your Nazi past, you shouldn't have been a Nazi.

[ericbarbour]

And I keep saying: IGNORE HIM. ED doesn't mock him relentlessly for nothing.

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Oliver_D._Smith

[Strelnikov]

....And this story has legs; check out this piece from an undercover reporter spying on the Alt-Right. It turns out that the head of Arktos Media (Daniel Friberg*) was at Charlottesville, so in a way Metapedia had "boots on the ground" at that violence and murderfest. Meanwhile months before the reporter (Patrik Hermansson) had a conversation with everybody's favorite half-Iranian loon Jason Reza Jorjani where Jorjani claimed:

...I ask about AltRight Corporation and its aims and objectives and he explains how it is a “government in waiting”. But then, out of nowhere, as though it was no big deal, he says: “We had connections in the Trump administration, we were going to do things!”

In this small Irish bar in Manhattan, I am sat opposite one of the most prominent alt-right figures in the world – from the extreme racial nationalist end of the movement – as he explains to me that he was “the link man” with the Trump administration via Steve Bannon, former head of Breitbart News Network and, until recently, Trump’s chief strategist....

....Jorjani talks for hours, displaying a remarkable arrogance coupled with a tiring self-pity. He’s a remarkably extreme character, much more so than his public persona. He sees the world one day being run by a single strong leader and predicts it won’t be long before bank notes are adorned with images of Hitler.

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* I never mentioned him; he is no street fighter, just another business suit Nazi like Richard Spencer.

Luke Ford has a blog post on the Alt-Right corporation.

[Flip Flopped]

Yes, that is news. What a weirdo. No wonder he connected with Bannon.

[Strelnikov]

Yes, that is news. What a weirdo. No wonder he connected with Bannon.

Read this from Jacobin: ...Jason Reza Jorjani, who received a PhD in philosophy from Stony Brook University....The institutional embarrassment certainly stems from Jorjani’s reactionary views on culture, which he outlines in Prometheus and Atlas, the book based on his dissertation.

The two authors, Harrison Fluss and Landon Frim, come off as furious that Jorjani was allowed to get a Ph.D. in philosophy because they were his classmates at Stony Brook U., and that his dissertation and book is full of stuff right out of The Morning of the Magicians (1960), Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier's book on the survival of alchemy, Nazi occult ideology from 1934 to 1945, and other far-out semi-Fortean things:

....Jorjani frequently draws on Heidegger and William James. The reliance on Heidegger is not particularly surprising, as he had explicit commitments to National Socialism and never completely managed to distance himself from Nazism. But William James may come as a shock, as his pragmatism is widely considered the paragon of American liberal philosophy.

From James, Jorjani takes the idea of radical empiricism, which rejects any rational standard for what counts as evidence apart from experience itself. James defines experience extremely broadly, as not just bare sense data but also the complex products of culture and spirituality. The latter specifically includes parapsychological phenomena such as Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis.

Against Enlightenment rationality, James’s radical empiricism validates these supernatural abilities as well as a plethora of religious experiences. When it came to revealed religion, however, he humbly maintained that the authors of the Bible were primarily grappling with their own “inner experiences.”

True to form, Jorjani insists on going further. He uses James’s empiricism to identify revelatory and miraculous experiences as real and historical, rather than as symbolic or allegorical. As a result, his reading of Exodus, Joshua, and Ezekiel treats the Hebrew God not as a hazy vision of some transcendent being but as a finite creature. Yahweh does not appear in the manner of an infinite God, but simply as “unknown,” in the sense of an UFO that hovers directly within our line of sight. Jorjani’s hyper-literalism transforms the Jewish God into an extraterrestrial intelligence that telepathically communicates with Abraham, Moses, Joshua, and Ezekiel.

Jorjani believes that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was an aerial attack and that Lot’s subsequent abandonment of the area indicates nuclear fallout. He thinks “some kind of anti-gravitational beam from out of the cylindrical object hovering over the [Red] Sea” destroyed the Egyptian chariots during the exodus.

The Arc of the Covenant “apparently acts as a pathfinder or guidance system” as well as a “sonic weapon” since it “interacts with vibrations of sound, possibly amplifying and concentrating the sonic waves before directing them at the walls of Jericho.” The descriptions of UFOs in Ezekiel line up comfortably with the worst daytime programming on the History Channel.

From Heidegger, Jorjani takes the idea that one’s historical culture matters more than objective reality. As opposed to the Enlightenment belief that time and space are uniform and measurable in some objective way, Heidegger claims that each group of people subjectively wills and shapes its own world and destiny. No common universe belongs to all; there is only a pluriverse of conflicting worldviews and forces. As Jorjani paraphrases Heidegger, each historical community struggles “to become more essentially what it is, or to perish in enslavement to another people and its world.”

Jorjani accepts this Heideggerian “war of worlds” and also embraces the philosopher’s belief that National Socialism possessed an inner greatness. Even here, Jorjani finds a way to push Heidegger still further, arguing that National Socialism represents the confrontation of modern man with the “spectral” essence of technology.

In Jorjani’s telling, technology is not simply mechanical or instrumental, but rather supernatural and world-forming. He recasts the essence of Nazism as an esoteric spectral revolution that started with the occult Thule (Atlantis) Society and ended with Himmler’s Ahnenerbe (ancestral research) institute, organizations obsessed with lost cities, ESP, and clairvoyance that deemed Hitler an actual superman with occult powers.

From these premises, Jorjani concludes that a liberal society based on privacy and equality is impossible. James’s radical empiricism allows him to posit the existence of a “psychic elite” that would require the sort of organic-corporate state that Hitler advocates, and Jorjani cites this approvingly in his Stockholm speech.....

Both of them were interviewed (ironically, on Hitler's birthday) by Doug Henwood on his KPFK show Behind the News and it's like a philosophy version of a CSICOP podcast: http://shout.lbo-talk.org/lbo/RadioArch ... _04_20.mp3 The interview is in the second half of the show which is 26:20 minutes in.

(Forgot to add that the photo of Jorjani in the Jacobin article features Jorjani wearing a Faravahar pin. This is a symbol from Zoroastrianism used by Iranian nationalists, and in Jason's case his wish to remove Islam from Iran, the ultimate pipe dream.)