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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by JuiceBeetle » Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:18 am

Strelnikov wrote:This is why you don't hear from E. Barbour that often - he's sick of the endless "Wikidrama."
As for me it's like a Telenovela show redubbed into proletarian British English, all psychodrama.

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Don't worry, I still find it entertaining.
It feels like... wait this is the 101th...
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It feels like this :)

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:32 am

Strelnikov wrote:The only solution to the Wikipedia problem is to bring in actual encyclopedia writers to clean the bodged articles, and sentence the editorial "staff" to gulag labor in Fukushima province, demolishing the radioactive buildings, packing the remains in 55 gallon drums for shipping to nuclear sarcophagi somewhere remote, either in Canada or the Siberian wastes. When Jimmy is wielding a pickaxe at gunpoint, that is the final victory of sanity over Wikipedia.

What is not posible and is not gonna happen. Because you simple will not find the people who are willing to do this and often is writing a new article less work.
And even if you manege this is this no solution for the complete joker no-English wiki's who are running out of the scope of any control.

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by Anyone » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:01 am

Graaf Statler wrote:
Strelnikov wrote:The only solution to the Wikipedia problem is to bring in actual encyclopedia writers to clean the bodged articles, and sentence the editorial "staff" to gulag labor in Fukushima province, demolishing the radioactive buildings, packing the remains in 55 gallon drums for shipping to nuclear sarcophagi somewhere remote, either in Canada or the Siberian wastes. When Jimmy is wielding a pickaxe at gunpoint, that is the final victory of sanity over Wikipedia.

What is not posible and is not gonna happen. Because you simple will not find the people who are willing to do this and often is writing a new article less work.
And even if you manege this is this no solution for the complete joker no-English wiki's who are running out of the scope of any control.

For Wikipedia to work, you'd need to scrap almost all of it and start afresh. You'd need a paid editorial board, too.

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:14 am

Yep. Because with this jokers you will reach nothing. And you must lower you ambition and not try to create something world wide and try to solve all kind of social justice problems with a one size fits all approach. That will never work.

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by JuiceBeetle » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:47 am

Anyone wrote:For Wikipedia to work, you'd need to scrap almost all of it and start afresh. You'd need a paid editorial board, too.

Rewrite from scrap of big projects almost always results in a crash of the project, and possibly the company. That's Kumioko level wisdom. Not feasible with millions of articles.

Strelnikov wrote:The only solution to the Wikipedia problem is to bring in actual encyclopedia writers to clean the bodged articles

Wikimedia has the money to hire writers, and progressively improve the bad articles. It only lacks the intent. Or maybe the Movement 2030 will reach this enlightenment. Who knows...

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:56 am

JuiceBeetle wrote:
Anyone wrote:For Wikipedia to work, you'd need to scrap almost all of it and start afresh. You'd need a paid editorial board, too.

Rewrite from scrap of big projects almost always results in a crash of the project, and possibly the company. That's Kumioko level wisdom. Not feasible with millions of articles.

Strelnikov wrote:The only solution to the Wikipedia problem is to bring in actual encyclopedia writers to clean the bodged articles

Wikimedia has the money to hire writers, and progressively improve the bad articles. It only lacks the intent. Or maybe the Movement 2030 will reach this enlightenment. Who knows...

Yes, they have the cash, but will not do that whit this shitheads and jokers. They will let the community's burn themself down and start all over from the scratch only using the good parts. And the real good editors who they will pay.

They want the communities to burn down. They don't need them anymore.

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by JuiceBeetle » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:46 am

Graaf Statler wrote:They will let the community's burn themself down and start all over from the scratch only using the good parts.

There will be no restart, Statler. If wikipedia would burn down anytime in the future, only ashes and shit would remain. There are no good parts, the trunk and branches are all infected, only a big part of the leaves are shiny green.

WP will only crash, if the big ticket donors will stop keeping it alive. That will happen only if there is a working alternative, most likely Everypedia.
The model and rules of Everypedia is in line with the Wikimedia Movement 2030 Direction: diversity, inclusivism, "sum of all knowledge", which is of course the ideology of the big ticket donors.

What the WMF is struggling to achieve, is ready and operational at EP, and some of the major donors can quickly move to EP:
Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri can be upgraded to use Everypedia any day: all the useful content necessary for those products is also available there.
On the day that upgrade happens (if it happens), a big chunk of the donations will cease, and wikipedia will be left to die of hunger.

The wmf is much more than wp, though, doing a lot of international advocacy, that might be unrivaled by the likes of EP. That might survive.

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:54 am

You didn't read what Madam Maher said in one of here speeches. I thank the users who have brought us so far.

TINA, WFM has only one goal as Eric has explained before.
Getting a very big and important foundation that is there goal.

And now they are driving in a dead end. They will crash, Juicy if they go on in this way.

Governments, trails and scandals will destroy them. There is enough left, believe me. There Google dominance, there donors and supporters, the money and the infrastructure. And the know how. All thing the others don't have.

There will no restart, they will dump what is not theirs. The content and the "communities" because it is total shit!
Don't think they are naive and not knowing what is going on! They are not as stupide as you guy's behind the shield of idiots like for instance T&S!

You are naive, and sorry to say, not very clever. Absolute not clever, no.

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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by CrowsNest » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:29 am

Kumioko wrote:OH NO! You reported me. Shit not that!
Oh please. Don't act like this didn't make you cry......
JuiceBeetle wrote:
Kumioko wrote:OH NO! You reported me. Shit not that!
Mod note: Report acknowledged. The terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad verdict is: Crow is right. Full stop. Kumioko is boring. Full stop.
I call this progress.

Last time around it took months for the people who run this shit show to accept you're nothing but a whiny little bitch. Now, there it is, in black and white.

You are, officially, a -----. You bring nothing to this forum except to bore the living shit out of people with your tiresome repetitive valueless whining.

People who thought you were capable of anything else, are only showing their sheer ignorance, and utter disrespect to those who have paid their dues and done their time. I pity the fools. Should have listened to me.

JuiceBeetle can get paid this week. Half pay. He will get full pay when he stops pretending this is ignorable. Life here will never go on until I have seen those two little red LEDs slowly dim and then fade to black.
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Re: The Neotarf Files

Post by CrowsNest » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:38 am

Strelnikov wrote:This is why you don't hear from E. Barbour that often - he's sick of the endless "Wikidrama."

As for me it's like a Telenovela show redubbed into proletarian British English, all psychodrama.
Maybe if you paid more attention to what's happening in the forum you claim to Administer, things wouldn't get so fucked up around here.

I told you Kumioko was a tedious pain in the ass, and here we are, he's unblocked, supposedly on Eric's say so, and he's gone right back to being a tedious pain in the ass. Just like he has done a million times before. So predictably Kumioko.

And now for some unknown reason, we've got a Wikipedian style of moderation here too, where I'm being censored for saying shit you two fuckers would say without even being blinking.

Even now, I'm writing this knowing you two won't even bother acknowledging the post, just like you've ignored previous posts.

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