Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Graaf Statler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:38 am

No, I explicit don't fund Abd's lawcase, but despite this I give him a reasonable change to win. And for the rest, a cup of coffee for a good friend, why not? Better than to spent it on the begging of trollopedia.

It's just a bit old man bullshiting between us, nothing serious.

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Anyone » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:25 am

Graaf Statler wrote:No, I explicit don't fund Abd's lawcase, but despite this I give him a reasonable change to win. And for the rest, a cup of coffee for a good friend, why not? Better than to spent it on the begging of trollopedia.

It's just a bit old man bullshiting between us, nothing serious.

So how did this guy fund his lawsuit? I read somewhere that he's completely broke. Almost penniless.

As I've said elsewhere, a lot of these Wiki obsessives are seriously strapped for cash.

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Post by Graaf Statler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:21 am

Wikipedia is a kind of sin island, a honey pot, a last hope of lossers and tramps. Who I could follow on WP it's all social benefits, broken carriers, jobless, some stupide "firm" with no customers and no income, social problems, very, very much autism and other mental problems. In short it is the floor drain of the society what is attracted. With in the middle a pot with gold pieces and take what you want. What do you expect? I don't blame Abd at all, it would break him if he should win, I like him. Why not giving him what is for me not even a cup of coffee? He is broke, penniless!

It's because of my moral question, can I blame this people for what they are doing? They prostitute themself, they let fuck themself by anyone in every cavity, they suck every dick, that is clear. They do complete immoral things, even criminal things, but often I think there for the grace of god goes I.
It's the ultimate Hotel California with a impressive facade. When I came in I was treated like a piece of shit but then came the invitations. Do you want to become a Arb? No thanks.
In De Kroeg, why don't you come to our chapter? Romaine was hoping around like a stoned monkey anywhere, a professional unemployed because he should be to ill to work but on WP and in the chapter he was "working" day and night. Meet, meet, meet and come to our meetings.

And what I saw was if people accepted these free sweets, gold pieces they changed. They complete changed and became complete loyal to the system. They became wiki robots and there wiki star started to rise. Sysop, bureaucrat, Arb, Steward, international, wikimania, and higher and higher they flew. Side in streamers, people who never edited wikipedia or wrote a article made impressive carriers,They got the golden chairs. It was always so weird.

It's a kind of Momo challenge in my opinion.

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Post by Graaf Statler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:18 am

On the other hand, my friend De Kolonel, integer tot op het bot, was last summer sleeping under a bridge, latterly. He was telling about old broken loves, but always optimistic.

https://groetenuiteerbeek.blog/2018/10/ ... et-kanaal/

He had a good time there, absolute. But it went cold and I said to him, listen. A old friend of me is the abbot of a Greek monastery in Crete, one of my best friends, let me buy you a ticket. It nice weather, he gives you shelter and food and work in the fields, life is good there. I mean not for ever but at least for the winter. And the father absolute had helped him the way back because that is what he always does and also did with me.
But he refused. He refused every help.

And sometimes he is for mounts disappeared out of Eerbeek and then I am praying and hoping he is doing well, and I am always glad if he is back. Always cinical, nothing can break him, even not poorness. And he is a fantasic editor and then I am asking myself often why. Why this. Why only free loaders and free beer lovers, why doesn't he get a change? Or other good editors? Why only Euro and gender crap?

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Dysklyver » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:37 am

Anyone wrote:So how did this guy fund his lawsuit?


It literally just cost $400 because he did all the work himself. ;)

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Post by Graaf Statler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:24 pm

Coffee prices are strong rising. :mrgreen:

Abd is a good faith user. Abd just handle Wikipedia as if it was his own blog, you simple can't expect he is some high level legal expert in the field of international copyright law, that is simple not his task. You can't expect he first has to go to law school with as specialism international CC licenses.
Abd is a very nice and friendly man who in no way has deserved the way he is treated. He himself is convinced he did nothing wrong. He is a American guy, how can he know in continental Europe copyvio is moral offence? That judges have no mercy and even a kid of 15 years old has to pay? (his parents has to, he is a minor.)

That is the same with gender issues, the mentality is so different here. Gender neutrality? Give me a break, no one is looking for this American gender crap here except some total flipped gender lady's. That gender de dender and we we pathetic women is total unknown here, it is in our European eyes complete rediciles both by man and woman.

This is Europe, this is Scandinavia and Holland, come on guy's! Please, please come by couchsurfing and meet the real European peeps, and not a few completer lunatic chapter losers because that is not us, the Euro peeps. It is a cheap, nice away of traveling and we will all welcome you with open arms, man and woman and gay and black people too.

We will love you! :D

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Anyone » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:58 pm

Graaf Statler wrote:A old friend of me is the abbot of a Greek monastery in Crete

Wow! I've been to Crete a couple of times but never visited a monastery.

The only monasteries I've seen in Greece were in Meteora:

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One day when I was there it started raining. So I ran back down the mountain to my little guesthouse, but had to keep stopping because for some reason the rain brought out zillions of tortoises.

That was the only time I've seen a tortoise in the wild.

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Abd » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:45 pm

Graaf Statler wrote:
Abd wrote:[
Graaf has some very extreme ideas about copyright (nobody is agreeing with him), and applies what might be valid about them out of context, over-generalizing and insisting on his interpretations vehemently and with utter and complete certainty.
And almost every other word is "fuck."

Well, the truth is except you no one disagreed me there, but it is not about me.
The truth is that nobody agreed with Graaf on the points Graaf kept repeating over and over when he wasn't just writing "Fuck you!" And when people disagreed, he repeated "fuck you" to them. This is very much about Graaf and his very erratic behavior.

It is about the Dutch/European copyright law, about European jurisdiction and Dutch/European cause law what you simple doesn't recognise.
Graaf keeps repeating that I don't recognize Dutch law, but I do. He cites as proof that he is "right" in his extreme statements, Dutch law and Dutch legal sites and cases that don't establish what he claims. I have nothing to do with anything involving Dutch law. But Graaf keeps demanding that I answer questions that I have answered many times. I suspected that he was drunk, but he claims he doesn't drink. As I wrote, something is broken. Vigilant translates that to "insane." But that's not what I'm saying. People are complex, and dismissing them as "insane" I don't do. A hater like Vigilant does that.

And I think I know why your are SanFanBanned.
You are properly SanFanBanned because of copyright infringements.

Complete and utter nonsense. My ban had absolutely nothing to do with copyright and this is just another crazy claim.
Because WMF lives (properly) in the same reality as I.[/quote]The stand I have been taking is that we all live in the same Reality, but we may interpret it differently.

The only thing what is left is the deformation because of publishing your name on that name and shame list. But I am not familiar with the American legal system, so I have no idea how the judge interpret this. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if you wins.
There is one way to find out how the judge will interpret the case. And what I did was file to find out. I love reality, it's far better than fantasy and complaints and empty speech. I've told Graaf many times that it is defamation, not deformation. I think he likes the pun. But something is deforming him, and I don't know what it is.

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Abd » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:50 pm

Anyone wrote:
Graaf Statler wrote:F>U>C>K>I>N>G Bullshit, Abd.
I thought you funded Abdul's lawsuit. Is that true? If so, how much did you give?

I funded my lawsuit, I've written the story, with $400 I had sitting in a drawer as an emergency fund. I have also written that I have received donations exceeding what I have spent so far, but there is no way that I will reveal information about who made those donations, and it is basically nobody's business. The lawsuit was my own idea, not promoted by anyone, though someone I know with extensive legal experience did tell me she thought I had a case. The only other expense I have had, so far, has been a certified mail to the WMF registered agent, trivial. And my time, which is worth whatever.

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Re: Lomax v. WikiMedia Foundation, Inc. et al

Post by Abd » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:57 pm

Anyone wrote:So how did this guy fund his lawsuit? I read somewhere that he's completely broke. Almost penniless.

As I've said elsewhere, a lot of these Wiki obsessives are seriously strapped for cash.

And you believe whatever you read "somewhere"? And repeat it?

I certainly would never write that I am "broke," nor that I am "almost penniless," nor that I am "strapped for cash." None of these are true about me. And so you read garbage written by trolls, as if fact. Good luck with your life, you will need it with habits like that.

I'm also not a "wiki obsessive." I gave up on Wikipedia in 2011, was active on Wikiversity for a time and gave up on that as well, but merely, in 2017, dealt with a case of impersonation-to-defame, because I knew how to handle it, and that stirred up a hornet's nest.

I do have a lot of opinions about Wikipedia, having studied intentional communities for decades and having attempted to support empowerment of the actual community on Wikipedia, but I have up because it was way too far gone, probably not recoverable. And nothing since then has changed that impression.

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