Monkey selfie again

[badmachine]

Can't find a date on this piece from South Wales Argus:

Once the case is finished, Mr Slater says he is aiming to take on internet giant Wikipedia for using and sharing his image without his permission.

Looks like it's going back to court on July 12.

[Mutineer]

Can't find a date on this piece from South Wales Argus:

Once the case is finished, Mr Slater says he is aiming to take on internet giant Wikipedia for using and sharing his image without his permission.

Looks like it's going back to court on July 12.

It's recent, this year, current, but it irritates me when news sources don't date their stuff.

At his Facebook account Mr. Slater says he thinks this proceeding will be live-streamed, if anyone is available to figure out and monitor that.

He's pointed to the fact that Wikipedia lays responsibility (and pretty well arguably USA law does too) on its editors, but Wikipedia makes them hard to identify. Particularly in the case of administrators, whom Wikipedia falsely claimed it had "identified" for years, all the while doing the opposite.

It'll be quite some injustice to Slater if the case goes against him.

[ericbarbour]

This report is dated July 2. He should know better than to announce something on Twitter....

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/153 ... ey_selfie/

Remember what a shitshow this was on Commons. The photo was repeatedly nominated for deletion and shitheads like Crisco 1492 showed up to scream KEEPKEEPKEEP. And an attempt to nominate it for "Featured Picture" failed, in spite of the screamers--specifically Yann Forget, Wiki fanboy and one of the earliest Commons users.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Comm ... _large.jpg

[Strelnikov]

....aand I'm back.

The "monkey selfie" going to trial is the dumbest thing yet.

[Mutineer]

Hollywood Reporter has a detailed article on the "Monkey Selfie" (it's a black macaque) appeals court case here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-es ... ng-1020376. Complete with link to Youtube video of the proceedings.

I gather the court is very skeptical of the notion that a non-human can own copyright unless Congress spells that out for them a bit better.

[ericbarbour]

Yeah, apparently this has nothing to do with the WMF, so I gather Slater has given up on reasoning with the WMF.

This new case is being filed by PETA "on behalf of the monkey" or some insanity like that. Blecch.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... story.html

[Strelnikov]

Yeah, apparently this has nothing to do with the WMF, so I gather Slater has given up on reasoning with the WMF.

This new case is being filed by PETA "on behalf of the monkey" or some insanity like that. Blecch.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... story.html

It's a stunt. Even if animals had citizenship, the black macaque isn't American, the camera wasn't his/hers, the monkey did not upload the image to the internet.

[Mutineer]

An account of David Slater's monkey selfie odyssey appeared on The Daily Mail's website today. There's a lot of viewers there. Slater has claimed, basically, that the Wikimedia Foundation has ruined him financially. What it did of course was steal his iconic photo of the black macaque. Under its guise of a charity that can't be held accountable for anything Wikipedia editors do. All the while taking donations that amount to more than quite a bit of money, and I wonder if now it's also selling cookie data too.

Some Slater quotes from the article:

"I suffer depression and can't sleep. But most of all it's the sense of failure. I can't provide for my family."

"My daughter tells everyone her daddy took the monkey selfie, but I've got nothing to give her from it. I can't send her to the school we want, or even think about paying her university fees when the time comes. And all could have been sorted out with one photograph."

"The magic's gone. I get my camera out every now and again to try to recapture the joy, but I don't seem able to. This was my livelihood."

Here's the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4719674/Wildlife-photographer-says-famous-monkey-selfie-ruined-him.html

[Flip Flopped]

That is so depressing. At that Wikimania in the UK Wales and a load of power users and WMF staff mugged for the camera with Slater's photo. This is unconscionable.

[Strelnikov]

That is so depressing. At that Wikimania in the UK Wales and a load of power users and WMF staff mugged for the camera with Slater's photo. This is unconscionable.

And here is the PETA lawyer's argument: http://www.alternet.org/environment/yes ... lfie-video