A New Wikipedia fork which I'm in the process of working on

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Re: A New Wikipedia fork which I'm in the process of working on

Post by Nemo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:46 pm

boredbird wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:07 pm
Nemo wrote:
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I mean anything besides the pursuit of hidden agendas.
Tell me what your main grievances with Wikipedia are, and I'll let you know how the site might address them.
I don't think you can because the main problem is that you work for free and don't own control or receive credit for anything you create. It's beneficial only if it helps you in some other way such as promoting yourself and your friends or revenge upon your enemies or just have a need to spread your point of view or pictures of yourself naked and when you look at it that way high profile Wikipedia is the place to do it.
I've dabbled in the possibility of granting content moderation of specific articles/categories to specific editors.

Though based on what you're saying, the solution sounds like it would involve writing one's own encyclopedia from scratch and having it officially published.

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Re: A New Wikipedia fork which I'm in the process of working on

Post by Nemo » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:34 pm

Currently there are just over 42,000 articles.

https://callipedia.miraheze.org/w/index ... edirects=1

All of the articles are taken from Wikipedia's List of Vital articles, so this ensures that most important topics are covered, and that there are no cruft or junk articles being hosted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles

Contributors, as well as suggestions for article inclusion are currently welcome:

https://callipedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://callipedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WikiForum

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Re: A New Wikipedia fork which I'm in the process of working on

Post by ericbarbour » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:29 pm

Nemo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:46 pm
I've dabbled in the possibility of granting content moderation of specific articles/categories to specific editors.
That would be fine, but if you do, make DAMN sure you aren't promoting cranks who are out to promote someone or something, or to push a political agenda.
All of the articles are taken from Wikipedia's List of Vital articles, so this ensures that most important topics are covered, and that there are no cruft or junk articles being hosted.
Go right ahead and scrape whatever you want from WMF sites. I would only ask that you try to cut down on the absurdly long and badly-written articles. Quite sick of seeing 200k-plus screeds about obscure topics or comic-book characters or such.

If Britannica can cover the Armenian genocide in 20k characters.....
https://www.britannica.com/event/Armenian-Genocide

then why is the Wikipedia article four times longer, with numerous (some even LONGER) side-articles? Because OF COURSE Armenians, wiki-maniacs, and their enemies have editwarred it into an incoherent stew. With obsessive referencing--unnecessary for a summary but the inevitable result of 15 years of shrieking editwars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminolo ... n_Genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide_denial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_ ... ecognition

This is not an "encyclopedia", this is an attempt to create public pity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... n_Genocide

Armenian genocide content is heavily OWNED by someone named Buidhe, formerly "Alázhlis", formerly "Catrìona", a young person from Seattle who went to Swarthmore and isn't even Armenian. Buidhe is obsessed with assorted genocides and holocausts, plus linguistics. I'll let you decide if this is a "good Wikipedian" or an ADHD maniac. You can also try googling her.

And THAT is the kind of craziness you are going to be fighting.....

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