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Russia gets real

Post by Daniel Brandt » Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:54 pm

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MOSCOW, July 1. / TASS /. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law obliging large foreign IT companies to open branches or representative offices in Russia. The document was published on the official portal of legal information.

The owners of Internet resources, the daily audience of which exceeds 500 thousand Russian users, will have to create branches, open representative offices or establish legal entities in the Russian Federation from January 1, 2022, which will "fully represent the interests of the parent companies," the document says. A set of measures is also being introduced to force IT companies to comply with Russian legislation, including, as a last resort, the possibility of partial or complete blocking of the offending resource.

The preliminary list of Internet resources, the owners of which may be obliged to open branches or representative offices in Russia, includes 20 platforms. It includes social networks (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter), video hosting (YouTube, Twitch.tv), instant messengers (WhatsApp, Telegram, Viber), mail service (Gmail), search engines (Google, Bing.com), hosting providers ( Amazon, Digital Ocean, Cloudflare, GoDaddy), online stores (Aliexpress.com, Ikea.com, Iherb.com), and Wikipedia.org. In this case, the list can be adjusted.

The corresponding legislative initiative was submitted to the State Duma on May 21 by a group of deputies from the Duma Committee on Information Policy and Senator Alexei Pushkov. The document received the support of the Russian government, the Bank of Russia and the Federal Antimonopoly Service.

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Re: Russia gets real

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:07 pm

There has been almost NO mention of this in media outside Russia. Below is all I could find. And it sure as hell looks like the Putin government wants to silence political dissent on Facebook, Twitter and other social media. "Unreasonable censorship" my ass.

http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/2 ... 83024.html
https://time.com/5951834/russia-control-internet/

For almost 15 years I've been telling people that regulation, taxation and censorship of the internet will happen. It is inevitable, and blubbering about Section 230 or antitrust is only a side issue. The US Congress agreed in the 1990s to not regulate it as a "Common Carrier", like radio/TV broadcasting or telephone networks; but the abuses of antitrust by the likes of Google, Facebook and Amazon (and more likely, people using social media to attack their 'glorious leaders' and stir up shit) are testing the patience of lawmakers.

Democrats AND Republicans have been making noises about slapping down S 230 lately, thanks to Zuckerberg mostly (IMO). Little Zucc the Mighty Dictator is walking a very fine line.

I haven't looked at ru-wiki in a while. It continues to suffer from occasional attempts by the regime to "control the content". Many articles are already being censored. But since very few people outside Russia can read Russian, we almost never hear anything else.

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Re: Russia gets real

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:12 pm

Russia’s major ISPs have now installed DPI equipment, according to Alena Epifanova, a researcher at the German Council on Foreign Relations. But no one knows if or when Russia will be able to cut off its Internet from the global web. “The information about its implementation process and its scope is kept under wraps,” says Treyak. What’s certain is that Russia does not yet have the technological capacity to create a Chinese-style Great Firewall. Unlike China, which brought ISPs under state control early on, Russia is deeply integrated in the global web having enjoyed a largely free Internet for decades.
In short: Putin is fucked. Because that decision was made in the Yeltsin era. They should have installed a national firewall 20 years ago.

Here we have a good example of why censorship is stupid. Stupid people usually want it.

Oh yeah, like we haven't heard this before:
A Russian Wikipedia is expected to launch in 2023 to ensure Russians have access to more “detailed and reliable” information about their country.

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Re: Russia gets real

Post by Cla68 » Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:28 am

Big Tech dislikes Putin because he is an anti-globalist. So, Putin appears to be trying to even the playing field. This, of course, cuts both ways. When a government tries to control the Internet and/or social media, it obviously raises some warning flags. However, as we know, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc are not fair and balanced platforms. They clearly promote the progressive globalist line. Who will win?

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Re: Russia gets real

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:55 am

Cla68 wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:28 am
Who will win?
If this follows the classic processes of Russian history, only the oligarchs will win. The Russian people will lose.

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Re: Russia gets real

Post by Strelnikov » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:55 pm

ericbarbour wrote:
Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:12 pm
Russia’s major ISPs have now installed DPI equipment, according to Alena Epifanova, a researcher at the German Council on Foreign Relations. But no one knows if or when Russia will be able to cut off its Internet from the global web. “The information about its implementation process and its scope is kept under wraps,” says Treyak. What’s certain is that Russia does not yet have the technological capacity to create a Chinese-style Great Firewall. Unlike China, which brought ISPs under state control early on, Russia is deeply integrated in the global web having enjoyed a largely free Internet for decades.
In short: Putin is fucked. Because that decision was made in the Yeltsin era. They should have installed a national firewall 20 years ago.

Here we have a good example of why censorship is stupid. Stupid people usually want it.

Oh yeah, like we haven't heard this before:
A Russian Wikipedia is expected to launch in 2023 to ensure Russians have access to more “detailed and reliable” information about their country.
The Yeltsin era was the era of post-Soviet Russia at its weakest and most pliable to whatever idiocy America wanted, and the open internet was it. China saw what was happening elsewhere in the ex-Warsaw Pact, ex-USSR and built their firewall as a response. I wrote about the Russian "national Internet" back in 2016, that's how long they've been talking about doing it: http://wikipedia-sucks-bad.blogspot.com ... oissi.html . The Twitter account I talk about in that post is still there, just run the Tweets through Google translate: https://twitter.com/fake_midrf

I haven't looked at ru-wiki in a while. It continues to suffer from occasional attempts by the regime to "control the content". Many articles are already being censored. But since very few people outside Russia can read Russian, we almost never hear anything else.
There is the large diaspora of ex-Russians across the world, but how many of them are computer scientists? From my vantage point, everything Putin has done since 2010 has been about increasing his personal control on the country. It's a doomed obsession, but this is the mind of a bureaucrat spread as fair as it can possibly go.....he is still reliant on a controlled opposition, but his United Russia party stands for nothing beyond a worn-out Russian nationalism and his Will to continue on as boss. It's all a very fragile situation because unlike past Russian/Soviet leaders, there is no true mechanism to replace him -- no dynastic succession, no Party committee. To make it worse there no actual person in line to take his place or be voted into the job. I can easily see a military junta taking over like during the period of martial law in Poland from December 1981 to early 1983, i.e. the "Wojskowa Rada Ocalenia Narodowego" or "Military Council of National Salvation" year, a move that was ruled unconstitutional after the Warsaw Pact ended. I can say that the "Right-wing International" that Putin is part of is starting to fall apart due to the un-rigging of elections (Bolivia, Peru, United States), the incompetence of the regimes (Bolsonaro in Brazil) or their authoritarian corruption (Orban in Hungary, Lukashenko in Belarus), or just the fact the Juan Guaido is a dink and Venezula is never going to be his, no matter what the CIA wants.
Still "Globally Banned" on Wikipedia for the high crime of journalism.

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