"Universal Code of Conduct"

Because no one else is doing it--not even the media.
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"Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by ericbarbour » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:50 pm

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22262 ... uct-policy
The formal code of conduct — like many Wikimedia projects — was a crowdsourced project, with over 1,500 volunteers from around the world contributing. It’s intentionally designed to be relatively short and easily comprehensible to users, measuring in at a brisk 1,600 words.

Broadly speaking, the new code of conduct is broken down into two categories: positive behavior that’s expected from users, editors, and Wikimedia employees, and unacceptable behavior that the company looks to discourage.
Short answer: this is basically the same Wiki-Luv shit they've been pushing as "official policy" for 15+ years. Policies which are regularly abused and ignored by Wikipedia administrators. Nothing will change.

""over 1,500 volunteers"? They pull these numbers out of their asses. As usual.

The bulk of the document was written by two WMF "Trust And Safety" employees, Patrick Earley and Brian Choo.
https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/ ... olicy_text

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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:53 am

It made Slashdot. And guess what: people posted complaints.
https://news.slashdot.org/story/21/02/0 ... nformation
The problem with Wikipedia is that it will accept (practically all) news sources as citations without considering how often the news gets things wrong even for innocuous reasons such as the reporters not having a good enough understanding of the domain on which they're reporting to report on it accurately. Never mind the other interesting problems [xkcd.com] that can occur which create facts out of thin air. Limiting citations to primary sources would probably help clear up a lot of the misinformation. Any article based on opinion or subjective impressions as opposed to logic, the scientific method, or some other form of rigorous methodology is almost invariably going to wind up being misinformation in one way or another and probably doesn't need an article. Getting rid of those would probably make the people who are most of the problem go elsewhere.

The other issue with their system is that users were able to stake out some kind of ownership over articles. To some degree it's understandable why this is the case due to the possibility of easy vandalism of anything on Wikipedia, but it resulted in a bunch of petty tyrants who will revert changes for arbitrary reasons or even because they've come to believe they're some kind of expert on the subject matter. Since anyone with some degree of authority to stop that kind of abuse doesn't want to spend their time dealing with internet slap fights and because there would be such an endless number of them to deal with, it's little surprise that the problems persist because having to deal with idiots arguing about things you don't care about is draining and it isn't like the person being asked to arbitrate some dispute is any more of an expert or in a position to determine who's correct.

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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by Kumioko » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:57 pm

This is nothing more than a hostile takeover of the wikis by the wikimedia foundation. Anyone think its a coincidence katherine maher resigned hours later? Ask the WMF about banning me for advocating the volunteer admins follow the rules! This isn't about conduct! Its about control!

They know as well as anyone that many of the worst problems are entrenched admins. When they start blocking shitheads like beeblebrox, fkoquenbeam, guerillero, etc. It's going to be high drama.
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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:57 pm

A Forbes writer parrots the "party line"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robpegorar ... 8321ce49e2
These provisions also cover behavior outside Wikimedia projects. For example, the doxing clause notes that “sharing other contributors’ private information, such as name, place of employment, physical or email address without their explicit consent” is out of line “either on the Wikimedia projects or elsewhere.”

There’s a complicating factor here in Wikimedia’s understandable lack of a real-names policy—enforcing one would endanger marginalized communities, and in particular those living under abusive governments. Wikipedia doesn’t even require an email address to create a contributor account.
Granted. But it also makes abuse easier--if you have an admin bit, or know an admin who will do abusive things for you. This is why Brandt's "Hive Mind" list from 2005-2006 was the one little thing that would infuriate the power abusers to the max.

Consider J. Payne Smith, a complete ADHD nobody who works at a Kroger supermarket in Atlanta. He gets on Wikipedia, he sucks up to David "MastCell" Gorski (who still denies being MastCell despite ample evidence) for years. He tries for adminship and fails, because he's a piece of shit. And now he's "outed" as a complete nobody.
Wikimedia Foundation communications lead Chantal De Soto noted this issue in an email: “enforcing any breaches of conduct that happen on other platforms is often very difficult—verifying connections between Wikimedia accounts, and, for example, a Twitter account, is often not straightforward.”

But it’s important that Wikimedia communities make that effort, considering all the evidence now available of how online radicalization can erupt in the physical world.

“All we have to do is look at January 6 to get a sense of what happens when that goes too far,” Howard said of the riots that took place at the U.S. Capitol.
You little shits. January 6 happens somewhere on English Wikipedia several times every day. And it's usually covered up.
Done right, this may require hiring more dedicated trust-and-safety professionals.
Bullshit. This is an excuse to increase paid staffing. Are the new "Trust and Safety" (what a joke that name is!) employees going to toss out admins who abuse the UCC every day, or have committed massive abuses in the past? SlimVirgin and Jayjg are still administrators. Their continued presence, despite keeping a lower profile than they did prior to 2011-2012, is a MOCKERY of any "code of conduct".

Show us this "Code of Conduct" is not a joke. FIRE SLIMVIRGIN AND JAYJG NOW.

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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by Kumioko » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:51 am

If they really want to show the new code of conduct isn't a joke, they should start with this 10:
- floquenbeam
- beeblebrox
- alexz
- binksternet
- beyondmyken
- highinbc
- neiln
- hasteur
- worm that turned for being a lying 2 faced weasel
- pretty much any wiki traitor who has ever been on arbcom.
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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by ericbarbour » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:56 pm

given hours (and hours) I could add hundreds of names to that list. Luckily most of the "lawful evil" Wikipedians have already quit, and their replacements have tended to keep a lower profile. They still do rotten stupid things, but usually don't make a screaming match out of it. The recent purge of Fram is more like an outlier than "standard procedure". Careful oversighting and rev-deletion, and the ruthless censorship of Jimbo's talkpage, can cover up a load of things.

Unfortunately their pre-2012 malarkey has already forced out some good admins and content writers. So it's all to no avail.

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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by Cla68 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:43 pm

If I understand correctly, the "universal code of conduct"'s primary role is to promote "inclusiveness" for marginalized populations to participate in Wikipedia? If so, it's simply the WMF doing it's part to support the current leftist, post-modernist, "woke" push to promote group identity politics and create equality of outcome based on group-identity. If it is actually enforced by the WMF, then it should mean that the WMF would push Wikipedia to have a population of administrators which proportionally better represents the diverse mix of groups present in Western, or world society.

The can of worms that such a push would open, of course, is that Wikipedia editors are encouraged to remain anonymous. So, it would be impossible to know for certain that any editor who puts, "I'm an intersectional, transgender, feminist, non-binary, LGBT, person of color" on their userpage is really that. Then, from being forced to promote those accounts to administrators, the current crowd of administrators, whose whole lives revolve around having Wikipedia functioning the way they want it to, would lose control.

I don't think anything will come of it. The WMF doesn't actually want to open that can of worms, so they'll just be content making it known that they're doing their part to encourage the equality of outcome for oppressed groups, but that the enforcement is out of their hands.

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Re: "Universal Code of Conduct"

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:15 am

Cla68 wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:43 pm
The can of worms that such a push would open, of course, is that Wikipedia editors are encouraged to remain anonymous. So, it would be impossible to know for certain that any editor who puts, "I'm an intersectional, transgender, feminist, non-binary, LGBT, person of color" on their userpage is really that. Then, from being forced to promote those accounts to administrators, the current crowd of administrators, whose whole lives revolve around having Wikipedia functioning the way they want it to, would lose control.
And about 85% of them are white or asian males.....

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Feedback on the Universal Code of Conduct and Its Enforcement Guidelines

Post by FlyingEagle95 » Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:07 am

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking feedback for its UCoC and enforcement guidelines (of the UCoC). For the average Wiki-editor, the UCoC could (but not necessarily will) be a powerful defensive tool. It's their last line of defense against harassers who have a lot of power and influence. If you're interested, share your opinions here and here.

The enforce guidelines haven't been ratified yet. Here's a timeline for the project.

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Re: Feedback on the Universal Code of Conduct and Its Enforcement Guidelines

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:57 pm

FlyingEagle95 wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:07 am
The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking feedback for its UCoC and enforcement guidelines (of the UCoC). For the average Wiki-editor, the UCoC could (but not necessarily will) be a powerful defensive tool. It's their last line of defense against harassers who have a lot of power and influence. If you're interested, share your opinions here and here.

The enforce guidelines haven't been ratified yet. Here's a timeline for the project.
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