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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:19 pm

Thanks to the UK's currently-under-consideration Online Safety Bill, WP access in the UK (and the very existence of Wikimedia UK) are hanging by a very fine thread:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65388255
Wikipedia will not comply with any age checks required under the Online Safety Bill, its foundation says.

Rebecca MacKinnon, of the Wikimedia Foundation, which supports the website, says it would "violate our commitment to collect minimal data about readers and contributors".

A senior figure in Wikimedia UK fears the site could be blocked as a result.

But the government says only services posing the highest risk to children will need age verification.
It only takes one obscure OFCOM bureaucrat deciding that WP violates the law, and down it goes. Britons do not have a freedom-of-speech law, or other protections, for online speech.

Assuming this bill is passed--hmm, I wonder if Jimbo is talking to MPs this week to get the bill stonewalled. Chances are excelllent, because his favorite newspaper-thing mentioned it today.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... quirements
There was similar coverage in January.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64285220

If passed, the law would instantly undo Jimboob's "free encyclopedocrap" routine of the past 20 years. Great lulz would be obtained if WMUK staffers found themselves tossed into jail for "causing incalculable harm to children" or whatever.
If a service does not comply with the bill, there can be serious consequences potentially including large fines, criminal sanctions for senior staff, or restricting access to a service in the UK.

Wikimedia UK fears that site could be blocked because of the Bill, and the risk that it will mandate age checks.
Wikipedia has a long and spluttery article about this proposed law. The nerds noticed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Bill

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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:30 pm

ericbarbour wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:19 pm
Thanks to the UK's currently-under-consideration Online Safety Bill, WP access in the UK (and the very existence of Wikimedia UK) are hanging by a very fine thread:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65388255
Wikipedia will not comply with any age checks required under the Online Safety Bill, its foundation says.

Rebecca MacKinnon, of the Wikimedia Foundation, which supports the website, says it would "violate our commitment to collect minimal data about readers and contributors".

A senior figure in Wikimedia UK fears the site could be blocked as a result.

But the government says only services posing the highest risk to children will need age verification.
It only takes one obscure OFCOM bureaucrat deciding that WP violates the law, and down it goes. Britons do not have a freedom-of-speech law, or other protections, for online speech.

Assuming this bill is passed--hmm, I wonder if Jimbo is talking to MPs this week to get the bill stonewalled. Chances are excelllent, because his favorite newspaper-thing mentioned it today.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... quirements
There was similar coverage in January.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64285220

If passed, the law would instantly undo Jimboob's "free encyclopedocrap" routine of the past 20 years. Great lulz would be obtained if WMUK staffers found themselves tossed into jail for "causing incalculable harm to children" or whatever.
If a service does not comply with the bill, there can be serious consequences potentially including large fines, criminal sanctions for senior staff, or restricting access to a service in the UK.

Wikimedia UK fears that site could be blocked because of the Bill, and the risk that it will mandate age checks.
Wikipedia has a long and spluttery article about this proposed law. The nerds noticed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Safety_Bill
Remember when someone passed RfA at eleven? (scroll down)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ilyanep

He's still an admin too. Not a bureaucrat anymore, but he could regain it if he wanted to.

Edit: Ilyanep's real name is Ilya Nepomnyashchiy. More personal info here. Sparsely-used Reddit account.
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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by Boink Boink » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:56 pm

Crompton-Reid added that there were more than 6.6m articles on Wikipedia and it was “impossible to imagine” how the site would cope with moderating content to comply with the bill.
:roll:

Step 1. Cycle through every page on Wikipedia. Doesn't take long. Use some of your wisdomous crowd to help you, bitch.

Step 2. Check to see if the page you loaded made your child wet the bed.

Here is a sample page that you can use to test your child's normal emotional responses...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukkake#/ ... ke_new.png

WARNING Graphic material. As in, a man who likes Japanese graphic comics probably drew that shit while stroking his tiny cock. Otherwise known as a Wikipedia editor. He would LOVE to meet your daughter for a chat and a cup of coffee and an editathon. Does she like Art, do you know?

Step 3. If the bed is wet, make the page viewable only to logged in users who have submitted a widely recognised form of age verification. See the internet handbook if this confuses you.

Step 4. Go to Step 1.

Did I just fix Wikipedia? I think I did!

Say thank you, Ms. Reid, and I won't bukkake you as my standard consultancy fee.

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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:29 pm

Boink Boink wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Crompton-Reid added that there were more than 6.6m articles on Wikipedia and it was “impossible to imagine” how the site would cope with moderating content to comply with the bill.
:roll:

Step 1. Cycle through every page on Wikipedia. Doesn't take long. Use some of your wisdomous crowd to help you, bitch.

Step 2. Check to see if the page you loaded made your child wet the bed.

Here is a sample page that you can use to test your child's normal emotional responses...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukkake#/ ... ke_new.png

WARNING Graphic material. As in, a man who likes Japanese graphic comics probably drew that shit while stroking his tiny cock. Otherwise known as a Wikipedia editor. He would LOVE to meet your daughter for a chat and a cup of coffee and an editathon. Does she like Art, do you know?

Step 3. If the bed is wet, make the page viewable only to logged in users who have submitted a widely recognised form of age verification. See the internet handbook if this confuses you.

Step 4. Go to Step 1.

Did I just fix Wikipedia? I think I did!

Say thank you, Ms. Reid, and I won't bukkake you as my standard consultancy fee.
Most of the article was written by "a founding member of Wikipediocracy".

What a strange userpage.
The Vintage Feminist wrote: This user supports the Anti-globalization movement.
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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by Boink Boink » Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:42 pm

You would hope the head of Wikipedia would know that it's the House of Commons that passes the laws, not the House of Lords.

Jimmy wants to be a Lord because they do feck all and are accountable to no-one. Hence their lack of actual power since eighteen hundred and seventy six or thereabouts.

And that the UK has a pretty strict idea of what is and is not pornography. Drawing cartoons of little girls being coated in semen is going to get you jail time here, and anyone who views it is gonna lose their job at minimum.

But that's just us, we take care of our kids and are mindful of our society. We understand that Americans do things differently. Freedom, and all that shite.

We'll let her off, since it seems likely she's getting high on her own supply.

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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:41 am

Boink Boink wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:42 pm
Jimmy wants to be a Lord because they do feck all and are accountable to no-one. Hence their lack of actual power since eighteen hundred and seventy six or thereabouts.
"Wants to be"? He thinks he already IS the Lord Of The Bloody Internet. Making him more powerful than any government. Or so he thinks, I suspect. The mark of a true-blue narcissist.

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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by Boink Boink » Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:47 am

ericbarbour wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:41 am
Boink Boink wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:42 pm
Jimmy wants to be a Lord because they do feck all and are accountable to no-one. Hence their lack of actual power since eighteen hundred and seventy six or thereabouts.
"Wants to be"? He thinks he already IS the Lord Of The Bloody Internet. Making him more powerful than any government. Or so he thinks, I suspect. The mark of a true-blue narcissist.
He's certainly not materially affected a single British law that I know of. Indeed the entire political history of Britain since 2010 has very likely thoroughly pissed him and his chums in the corridors of power here right off. Which only goes to show his complete powerlessness. And Wikipedia's.

It's quite apparent British editors of Wikipedia grind away at it, flexing their biases and attacking thier enemies via biographical hit pieces, precisely because the real world over here as it manifests at the village pump, ballot box and most media, doesn't pay those sort of people or their opinions any attention at all. The fringiest of fringe fucks. We would call them kooks if that term wasn't already taken. Lunatic charlatan fits, but Jimmy wisely bagged that before people realised how aptly it described the furious anger and general amateur childishness of the Wikipedian in how they go about trying to change the world.

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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by ericbarbour » Wed May 10, 2023 5:31 pm

The best parts of this report, which just goes over the previous BBC report

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/05/09/wik ... -mandates/

are the incoherent comments below it. Joe Blow really has no idea how Wikimedia operates. And that's how they get away with abuses.

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Re: EU designates TIkTok, Wikipedia for stricter rules

Post by Bbb23sucks » Wed May 10, 2023 5:44 pm

ericbarbour wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 5:31 pm
The best parts of this report, which just goes over the previous BBC report

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/05/09/wik ... -mandates/

are the incoherent comments below it. Joe Blow really has no idea how Wikimedia operates. And that's how they get away with abuses.
At least they're not as bad as the Reddit comments.
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