If this is TL, please DR!!!
Max wrote:WWHP I can assure you it was many people who complained about Lomax, not just Smith.
I know that there were more than Smith. Below, four are listed, plus two anons. One of the four was defacto banned as an LTA. What were the two anons complaining about? That they had been suspected of being socks? But that's normal, in that context. In any case, the names below are precisely those I suspected. The content of the complaints has not been disclosed (except for the email harassment claim). And then this irrelevancy:
There had long been claims. But I had not been blocked for two years. When I was indef blocked because of the long block log (I never before saw that a reason), I did an analysis of the block log on my blog, http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wikivers ... block-log/
, and then I linked to it in my unblock request. Mikeu denied the request (very much outside of policy and practice), removed the link, and blacklisted the site (which had no other links, as far as I recall). As to whether or not 11 blocks in almost as many years is long, consider the Wikipedia block log for Joshua P. Schroeder, one of the complainants. Wait! Where is that? He's made it very difficult to find, and WP administrators have cooperated with this, to preposterous lengths. Here it is, archived in case he changes his user name again. http://archive.is/3tVdA
The list of people who sent complaints about Abd:
1. Myself (Public IP 220.127.116.11 on Wikiversity)
2. IP 18.104.22.168 (privately confirmed his identity to the Wikimedia Foundation)
3. Joshua P. Shroeder (claims Abd sent him harassing emails)
4. Guy Chapman (Wikipedia admin JzG)
5. Oliver Smith (actually leaked one of the emails)
The anons canvassed on Wikipedia to gather JzG (Guy) and JPS. JPS did make that claim, and for that reason he may be facing a defamation action. The emails are here: http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wikiversity/alleged-harassing-emails/
Only the first mail was sent through the system. He chose to respond, we went back and forth a bit, he stopped replying and I stopped sending mails. And then he complained about harassment, but he never requested that I not email him. Bad News Bear. ODS leaked the WMF response to his complaint. I'm pretty sure he lied in the complaint, but I won't know until I get copies of the complaints from the WMF. That might take a court order, i.e., this would be a reason to file an action.
No proof of this one, but it is obvious (I have emailed him):
6. Michael Umbrecht - (Username Mu301 - Bureaucrat on Wikiversity)
Indeed. Probable. If he was a complainant, it will be very interesting to see what he wrote. On-wiki, he lied, multiple times (or, to be charitable, carelessly repeated what he'd been told or imagined as if fact, such as a long history of disruption over cold fusion on Wikiversity, when there had been none at all. Ever. Until the IP filed the deletion request and canvassed for comment on the Wikipedia Fringe Theories Noticeboard.
I can't wait for these two to go to jail, truly.
There is no proof "two" exist and Oliver Smith denies most of the things you accuse him of.
This could be Darryl, and that is an argument Darryl has presented. But there are twins, I verified it from public records, and Oliver has openly acknowledged this. "Max" has a high level of special knowledge on this case, and it is highly unlikely that anyone outside that family would have that. Who else cares that much?
Max is lying. If he were independent, there would be differences from the classic Smith party line. Darryl was the disrupting sock on Wikiversity, the one who canvassed, who would know these details. Even Oliver probably would not. Darryl was the one who threatened retaliation for documenting the socking.
The other "brother" is rumour. There is no proof of such a person existing. I have never seen this individual come forward or put his name to any account you accuse him of. Based on the evidence I do not believe he exists.
Frauds claim "there is no proof." In fact, the independently verifiable evidence is very strong. There is almost too much evidence. He presents irrelevant fact as if it makes a difference.
This is true: Darryl L. Smith has never used his real name for any account I have seen. However, the current RationalWiki accounts for the brothers are "ODS" -- just posted a "retired" template, as many of the socks do after a relatively short and intense period of editing -- and "Debunking spiritualism," or DS. If that were the only evidence you could start laughing.... Oliver, however, on RationalWiki, referred to DS as his brother, and made references to his twin brother elsewhere, where impersonation was not possible; it all fits together.
There are some who claim that Oliver is the only active brother. I do not consider that impossible. If so, DLS is simply not speaking up, but he existed, as of several years ago, the same age as Oliver, living at the same address, which, by the way, geolocates close to 22.214.171.124. Maybe I'll give some information on that. There are primary interests that are distinct, but then overlaps.
But last time I checked it wasn't a crime to call someone an internet troll. I think the police have better things to be doing like catching real life criminals, muggers, bank robberts etc than arresting someone over calling Rome Viharo an a pseudoscience proponent or internet troll. Regards.
There are many aspects of the Smith activities that are illegal in the U.K. Impersonation socking to defame is a crime, and there is admitted impersonation socking, as well as clear harassment, also illegal in the U.K.
It is correct that it is not a crime to call someone a troll. However, how about calling someone a pedophile or "child-rape apologist"? when the claims are then repeated by mainstream media, based on shallow research by a sloppy reporter? Oliver has done that.
Without emails, we'll never know if this incident played any part in his ban. What we can see, is that Wikiversity has some pretty strange ideas about transparency and due process. Two different IPs, turning up to target Abd's work, claiming to be two separate people who both have accounts in good standing on en.wiki? Yeah, that sounds totally legit. It definitely sounds like you're the victims.
I do have a good standing Wikipedia account. Why would I reveal my identity or my account? So Abd Lomax can dox and harass me or my family on his blog, like he does to other people? I have a reputation to defend. Lomax was causing trouble, arguing with users and pushing cold fusion pseudoscience on Wikiversity for years. It was time people came together and took him down!
I hadn't edited Wikiversity on cold fusion, with anything significant, for years. This was the argument presented on Wikiversity. No "family" has been harassed.
These people attack others, doxxing them freely, and actually calling up family and, in one case, the mother of a target lost her job because her employer was contacted. Known impersonation socks had been created by another person who had filed checkuser on the sock master, having stalked him. There is strong evidence that this was Darryl L. Smith. And at that point, I was not involved, but he claimed he was not using his Wikiversity account for fear of retaliation. There is no known retaliation in that case. This is simply an excuse for hiding while libelling.
I will not be further contributing here, I have been pretty fair in the information I have given you.
He revealed enough to make it extremely likely this is Darryl L. Smith, while Catapult was Oliver. But I do not find distinction between the brothers to be necessarily definitive.