Dimitar Dimitrov wrote:Dear Smiley.toerist, the entire process of the UK leaving the EU is novel, unplanned and lacks vision on both sides. This is why currently not even the top level officials and politicians can foresee what kind of outcome, that is, what kind of relationship we will end up having. This being said, the UK is still a full member of the EU, participates in all decision making and applies all rules. So the UK government is negotiating the current EU copyright reform, UK Members of the European Parliament have a voting right on it and the UK will implement the changes if there is an agreement before they leave.
That being said, even after the UK leaves it is highly likely that we will have some sort of binding, legal connection to them. This type of relationship can range from an EEA/Switzerland (EFTA) agreement (or similar) to a regular trade agreements (think CETA). When it comes to copyright and most digital issues, EFTA countries are obliged to follow the main lines of EU legislation (so-called acts with EEA relevance). This means that they basically apply parts of EU legislation without having an actual say in its making. But even trade agreements, like the one between the EU and Canada, have intellectual property chapters, which usually bind each side to respect at least some rules. Chances are that even if the UK should be relegated to a regular trade agreement, a EU-UK treaty would cover the issues of interest to Wikimedia.
In brief: Currently the UK will still transpose & apply all EU legislation until Brexit. After that there is very high chance that we will remain connected in some way.Dimi z (overleg)
Let's highlight a few thinks.
.....the entire process of the UK leaving the EU is novel, unplanned and lacks vision on both sides. This is why currently not even the top level officials and politicians can foresee what kind of outcome, that is, what kind of relationship we will end up having.
How treu. The Brexit is a landslide in the EU, nobody knows where we end up.
This being said, the UK is still a full member of the EU, participates in all decision making and applies all rules. So the UK government is negotiating the current EU copyright reform, UK Members of the European Parliament have a voting right on it and the UK will implement the changes if there is an agreement before they leave.
This being said, it is of course clear the influence on the proces of the UK government will be very, very little, and it looks to me unlikely there will be any copyright reform before the UK has left.
Chances are that even if the UK should be relegated to a regular trade agreement, a EU-UK treaty would cover the issues of interest to Wikimedia.
Absolute. But my my prediction is the European copyright will be much more "continental" (read French) than the English at the end. Because the English legal system is already Anglo-Saxon. And that is very bad news for Wikimedia, because the French and other continental country's see there intellectual property as gold in there ground. The simple don't want to give it for free to the American internet giants, that is where it's about. And Romaine can of course troll me with brute force out with his troll army, but that doesn't change the facts.
