He madam gender!

[Graaf Statler]

When do you stop by writing bull about what I said?

At the risk of attracting all the assorted weirdos and control freaks on Sucks and Wikipediocrazy who refer to women as “gender bitches” and gloat over intimidating women with rapey talk about vulgar words for genitalia, I am posting the links here.

I refer not to woman as gender bitches, madam gender. Normal I use the term gender lady's, I used that term for a few woman I think you even don't know. Why? Because they used that wiki gender thing on there one advance, to push there own POV, by turning a old man and others down. It has nothing with gender to do, but everything with trolling. I never, never called you, Erika, GW or the other lady's a gender bitch, but always a gender lady or madam gender. So stop with your bullshit arguments.

What I don't like at your style is shouting from the sideline, and never, never correct anything when you are total wrong. I should be a metal ill person according to you. Any correction? Nop. Niente. Holland should be a extreem bad country for woman. Correction? Nop. Niente, although Holland is one of the safest and best places in this world for woman and gay people. You are just shouting something from your blog as the holy true, doesn't matter if you are right or wrong. And that is for your the only holy true, right or wrong, doesn't matter. You keep on repeating it over and over, you can't stop with it.

And again, what I wrote about Maher is complete correct and has nothing to do with the fact she is a woman, she is a activist. She is simple not neutral and not the right person to lead a organisation like WMF. And the gender gap is just one of the many problems of Wikipedia, what you can't solve it without also solving the other problems too. Otherwise it is a complete waisting of time and money. That is what I claim, madam gender, and nothing else!

Be a grown up girl and learn to discuss in a grown up way. Because this is a childish way what you are doing now by twisting up everything and put it out of the context or in a other context.
You constant write down thinks down I never meant in that way and keep on to repeat them and presenting them as a facts, a style I don't like t all!!
And not the users of WO and sucks used the term gender bitches like you suggest, but I did, madam gender. And I have explained to you over and over why. So will you now stop it? Thanks.

[Dysklyver]

Well three days ago you said:

They can all fuck off for a while for me with there trollopedia. Peekaboo Ming, Midside Jakeass, Eric, our one Dutch Drmies, the export product of the year, GW, Trijnstel, Wikimedia Romaaiiineee, the gender bitches who are most times predicting complete gender nonsens, all! (Fresh material for a blog post, gender lady! And don't come to Holland, you where complete right, because you can't there Pieeeeee....)

In the RC garden trains and other Statler stuff thread.

Now this may not have been intentional, but the placement of commas creates an ambiguity as to who exactly is being referred to with the b-word here.

[Graaf Statler]

Well three days ago you said:

They can all fuck off for a while for me with there trollopedia. Peekaboo Ming, Midside Jakeass, Eric, our one Dutch Drmies, the export product of the year, GW, Trijnstel, Wikimedia Romaaiiineee, the gender bitches who are most times predicting complete gender nonsens, all! (Fresh material for a blog post, gender lady! And don't come to Holland, you where complete right, because you can't there Pieeeeee....)

In the RC garden trains and other Statler stuff thread.

Now this may not have been intentional, but the placement of commas creates an ambiguity as to who exactly is being referred to with the b-word here.

Yeh, that is the problem when you are not writing in your native language. Because in Dutch this would't be a problem. Read it in this way:

They can all fuck off for a while for me with there trollopedia.

Peekaboo Ming, Midside Jakeass. Eric, our one Dutch Drmies, the export product of the year, GW, Trijnstel, Wikimedia Romaaiiineee.

The gender bitches who are most times predicting complete gender nonsens, all!

(Fresh material for a blog post, gender lady! And don't come to Holland, you where complete right, because you can't there Pieeeeee....)

As you can see there is no connection to the gender desk lady, or the other lady's. The gender desk lady is often messy, but absolute not predicting nonsens, and I never said many of the other lady's did. I wrote before I like many of her postings, but what I don't like is she never correct herself if she is clearly wrong. And there it was about. Because I told many times about who it was. and that was not Maher, Erika, here, etc. She never asks something, takes here one conclusions as the holy treu, and that is it. And nothing can change that, no matter how wrong she is.

[Graaf Statler]

Whatever happened to “shining a light in dark crevices”? You should change it to “trying to send messages though people who regularly troll us on other websites”. There was a time when Wikipediocracy would have done some background work on this and shown up to ask some relevant questions.

And uh, cough cough…

Trolling you? Because I wrote the true, madam? Jake don't has to be afraid I want to return to his wikipedia fan club, don't fear.
But trolling? Can you explane that to me, dear gender lady? Because in my opinion this is just shining a light in dark crevices.

[Dysklyver]

Trollomedians has a good sound to it. But yes, it's all quite true, Wikipedia is full of weird people, and the atmosphere is not healthy! It's a toxic project created by toxic people and they don't care one bit about any wiki, only their jolly game of climbing the greasy pole to play mind tricks on each for the laugh. It's a trollfest for intellectuals who can't make it on 4chan, and that's the sad truth of it. A less than popular social media site for people to pretend they are academics when they are not, and that is why Citizendium failed. There were never any experts on Wikipedia, just a bunch of people who think they are but clearly aren't. And Wikipedia gives them a platform to write half truths that Google feeds to the masses in a self sustaining cycle of dystopian stupidity.

And they can't admit it, to admit one failing would be paramount to admitting the entire thing is a sham. Which would ruin the self worth of so many people who get off on the toxic environment. It doesn't matter that there are a few people making articles good, because there's always a reason. Eric "Cunt" Colbert was clearly laughing his bollocks off when he wrote his featured article about a non-existent custom which a hoaxer just like him created in the 17th century as a form of fucking entertainment, that some bored professors duly recorded in some dusty tomes, so that Eric could get a big laugh out of making it real years later.

What about the people who write about every hurricane, road, sports event, train thing, and place? Well it's clear these people are in it to fuel their interests, or obsessions if you put it that way. These people (of which I am one on some subjects) would happily, and did, write exactly the same material for a niche newsletter read by 100 people in a local fan club, Wikipedia is like fan club plus, because enthusiasts everywhere get to read their stuff. But does this get recognised? Nope, not one bit, Wikipedia puts a huge amount of effort into stopping these people building complete topics by insisting that minor but still important details are not notable, and stopping anything being published that isn't already published in a reliable source, meaning that Wikipedia is basically just an echo of what it could be and should be. Missing a lot of details that would make it a useful specialist encyclopedia on any subject, and full of missing information which is blindingly obvious. If you could use a map or a physical train a as source, that would be useful, but nope, WP:V insists on writing, Wikipedians only accept video in theory, and even then it is very very hard.

Wikipedia is crap, and the hundred and fifty idiots that run it are stuck in a mind game of their own making, unable to even perceive their own project.

[Graaf Statler]

It is complete silly to have only the illusion this mental digital hospital is able to solve one single social problem. Wikipedia is one big system error what has made it to a self destroying systeem, it is a extreem primitieve system. If they should manege to solve what they call the gender gap the problems still should be the same, it solves nothing. Really nothing. The system errors should still be there, because they have nothing to do with the gender of the users. Or the gender of the executive director.

[CrowsNest]

She has definitely missed your intent. But "bitches" is never going to be well received. I just wish she would do us the simple courtesy of differentiating between what we do, and what they do. It's lazy and offensive. She has a cheek really, since all she's done there is expand on a post I'd already written ages ago.

[Graaf Statler]

No, but maybe I didn't want that "bitches" to be not well received. In the Wiki gender discussions are different fractions, woman who are concerned about the position of woman, of lesbian woman. I think after what I have seen of the working class woman they have every reason to be in America, but that is not where it is about. Wikipedia will never help any woman, but they believe wikipedia will. I will never say anything wrong about them, I will only try to convince them wikipedia is a false prophet.
But in that gender group are also a fraction of some extreem mean people who I have met who who are misusing that gender discussion in a terrible way. They misuse it for trolling, for astroturfing, for predicting irrationaal gender crap and so one. For them I used that term. They misuse the good faith lady's in this way.

But you are right, it is often lazy and offensive. I named here therefore a Google prinses, what is not very offensive in my opinion, but not that other.

[CrowsNest]

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You need to start differentiating between the two sites, period. Graaf is not a native English speaker, and he is using "GB" to highlight those who has gender as an excuse for other toxic behaviour familiar to Wikipedia. You will not find any other examples of sexist or misogynist speech on Sucks, just bad language which includes the occasional gendered insult. This is compatible with our warning to expect to be offended, the need to cause offence being quite necessary in this task, as you seem to accept. You will also find countless examples of how Wikipediocracy welcomes people with sexist and misogynistic views, and gives them copious airtime. They are laughably out of touch, completely incapable and quite unwilling to address these issues. This is all documented on Sucks, so if you keep scaring women away from it by lumping us in with them, they will likely keep making the mistake of joining Wikipediocracy, thinking they are in an understanding environment. Nothing could be further from the truth. It has taken BrilleLyle a very long time to realise what they are all about. She should be the last women who makes that mistake.

[Graaf Statler]

Posted this comment.....

You need to start differentiating between the two sites, period. Graaf is not a native English speaker, and he is using "GB" to highlight those who has gender as an excuse for other toxic behaviour familiar to Wikipedia. You will not find any other examples of sexist or misogynist speech on Sucks, just bad language which includes the occasional gendered insult. This is compatible with our warning to expect to be offended, the need to cause offence being quite necessary in this task, as you seem to accept. You will also find countless examples of how Wikipediocracy welcomes people with sexist and misogynistic views, and gives them copious airtime. They are laughably out of touch, completely incapable and quite unwilling to address these issues. This is all documented on Sucks, so if you keep scaring women away from it by lumping us in with them, they will likely keep making the mistake of joining Wikipediocracy, thinking they are in an understanding environment. Nothing could be further from the truth. It has taken BrilleLyle a very long time to realise what they are all about. She should be the last women who makes that mistake.

I wish I could write English on this level. In Dutch I can, but not in a other language, and I still don't know if people don't understand that or don't want to understand that.
Strange enough are the people who are mocking my English themself most times not able to write one correct sense in a foreign language. But it is not about that. It is about shouting from the sideline without even asking a explanation, it is about her constant framing.

Look, look, the enemy is everywhere!
What is simple not true. I don't want to be associated by her with a person like Brett Kavanaugh or other vulnerable people, it is disrespecting and insulting what she is doing. And for Erika it was indeed a long road and she is the victim of what I call gender bitches. A gender bitch can also be a man, it is about prostitute yourself. I will write a definition of a gender bitch the coming days. It is about time she starts to understand that if she doesn't do that already.
But I don't think she will publish your posting.