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Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by ericbarbour » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:18 am

The new "big entertainment thing", thanks partly to the internet. I've had it done to me a couple times (very badly and ineffectually) and seen it done to others--always online. Twitter is the most popular vehicle, but sometimes, a private mailing list produces some deeply extreme and disturbing behaviour. Both the right and the left have their respective classes of special loonies.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06 ... -shor.html

Yes, many of the comments for the article are bonkers. Damn. This is another example of the "Mighty Empire" in decline. If this shit keeps up, the Democratic Party is liable to self-immolate.

As usual, the right is giggling at them:
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/06/ ... iot-study/
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... avid-shor/

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Re: Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by badmachine » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:12 am

2016 broke a lot of people.

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Re: Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by Abd » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:23 pm

Racism is normal human instinctive behavior. it becomes toxic when mixed with hate and arrogance, and the accusation is offensive when it is itself mixed with hatred. The basic reactive instinct is dangerous, like all instinctive responses, but if the racism is not mixed with entrenched hatred or arrogance, it is not difficult to recognize it and compensate.

Hatred of racism is understandable, but probably retards progress, as it encourages denial.

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Re: Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by Abd » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:30 pm

badmachine wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:12 am
2016 broke a lot of people.
Yes, many. When people break, many become haters. It may seem easier than taking responsibility, and then haters reinforce each other.

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Re: Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:42 pm

This old thread deserves an addendum. It's five years later.

David Shor ought to be a paragon of progressive politics. Nerdy, Jewish, worked for the Democrats for years. But his article goes on and on about that stupid Twitter war instead. Said flap is almost totally forgotten today otherwise. I wonder how many times a prospective employer looked at Shor's WP bio and said "nope, not hiring him, too racist/too crazy/too risky/whatever". And American progressives call themselves "tolerant". Ha ha.

Meanwhile, Robin DiAngelo is treated like a hero. Despite not actually being very heroic. Largest editor: Bilorv, a noticeboard nutcase who loved to talk about the Black Mirror tv series and transgender issues. Other editors of DiAngelo's BLP include some suspected Cirt socks. Bilorv quit last year. Not "fun" anymore?

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Re: Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by Archer » Mon May 05, 2025 1:05 pm

As with most political neologisms, one loses very little by removing the word "racist" from their vocabulary entirely.

If anyone can think of a sentence that includes the word "racist" and cannot be phrased just as clearly and precisely (if not more) without using the word, please do share it. The media constantly drills this word into the public consciousness. "Racism" represents a sin, we're told. Yet it seems as though most instances of "racism" either involve some other serious wrongdoing ("assault", "murder", and so forth - old words) or amount to 'thoughtcrime' i.e. having the wrong opinion. Last I checked, one is entitled to their own opinions and values and deciding upon them is not the prerogative of others.

It seems best not to use the word. Personally I make it a point to avoid using the media's fluff political jargon in the first place.

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Re: Pointing at white people and screaming "RACIST!"

Post by Archer » Mon May 05, 2025 8:42 pm

The zen of python (pep 20) asserts
Explicit is better than implicit
- a self-evident principle that I believe applies to any sort of communication.* So to make the above point explicit, I believe the word "racism" represents a (presumably deliberate) conflation of two distinct concepts - "thought crime", as it were, and violence/oppression. The powers that be (ab)use it for chilling effect and to smear people who have inconvenient opinions.

* Incidentally, I do not trust those who enshrine allegory, symbolism and other needless abstractions/obfuscations. This had always struck me as pretentious and annoying in the past but the more I think about it, the more it seems like a type of madness, if not outright malevolent.

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