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News flash! There are Nazis in Israel!

Post by ericbarbour » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:19 pm

From a private email:
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/ ... ionalcrime

That is amazing. Seriously doubt the Guardian would run an item like it today. Of course NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS IN ISRAEL, except for those pesky Palestinians throwing rocks and ruining real estate values. Now it's just another country, with (more than?) the usual problems. Sometimes called "Northern Ireland with warmer weather and more violence".


> Crappy, photoless Wikipedia article:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_36

Even after years of "reform" and unbelievable editwars, WP still loves Israel and anything Jewish with a blind, insane love. And tries to soft-pedal or ignore the bad things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Racism_in_Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_Israel

Every one of these articles has been "stepped on" by Jayjg many times. As usual.


> Something found while searching for "Ely the N-a-z-i" instead of "Eli the N-a-z-i":
> http://isocracy.org/content/ely-nazi

"they plagiarized, almost verbatim, the Nazi’s definition of who is Jewish." So basically, Israel's immigration law was written by order of H-i-t-l-e-r. Lol. Which implies the Jewish leadership of Israel considers Jews to be a "separate race" of some kind, which is utter nonsense. A large percentage of practicing Jews aren't even "Semitic" anymore. They are white eastern Europeans and have been for centuries.

Ask Wikipedia!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... ous_groups

Wikipedia mentions the "Law of Return" business but buries it deeply within this giant cringey mess of an article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew?


Just need to point out one other irony: Jayjg is an Ashkenazim --- from Canada, of all places.

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Re: News flash! There are Nazis in Israel!

Post by The End » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:18 am

I remember a BBC news article about the neo-Nazis in Israel. The Independent had a story about it in 2007:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 96392.html

Very strange that some of these Israeli neo-Nazis would have been murdered under Hitler's regime and yet they worship him.
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Re: News flash! There are Nazis in Israel!

Post by Graaf Statler » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:04 pm

There is a huge misunderstanding. Someone who is partly from jews origine, like I am, doesn't have to be a jew! Even my father was according to the Neurenberger Laws not jewish! His mother was form -where for the hell is it?- Sint Maartensvlotbrug and was a cabaret girl in the Bouwmmeester reveu. I myself have seen one synagogue in my whole life, the one in Prague.
But I have the right to establish myself in Israel because of the family drama in Sobibor. Who where by the way also not jews, it was the paranoia of herr Hitler, they had no religion.
Why couldn't I be a Israeli N*azi? And I am for sure not the only one in this position and my parents really didn't like the jewish religion and Israel for what it had coursed in there opinion. So I am absolute not pro Israel raised. But don't fear, I am not a N*azi, no.

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Re: News flash! There are Nazis in Israel!

Post by Strelnikov » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:42 pm

Graaf Statler wrote:There is a huge misunderstanding. Someone who is partly from jews origine, like I am, doesn't have to be a jew! Even my father was according to the Neurenberger Laws not jewish! His mother was form -where for the hell is it?- Sint Maartensvlotbrug and was a cabaret girl in the Bouwmmeester reveu. I myself have seen one synagogue in my whole life, the one in Prague.
But I have the right to establish myself in Israel because of the family drama in Sobibor. Who where by the way also not jews, it was the paranoia of herr Hitler, they had no religion.
Why couldn't I be a Israeli N*azi? And I am for sure not the only one in this position and my parents really didn't like the jewish religion and Israel for what it had coursed in there opinion. So I am absolute not pro Israel raised. But don't fear, I am not a N*azi, no.


Explanation for Israeli N-a-z-i-s: There are post-Soviet Russian immigrants, and they don't really fit in. They probably would have an easier time in an ex-Soviet republic like Kazakhstan, but Otets i Mama (Father and Mama) did some genealogical research, discovered they had just Jewish relatives to pass Israeli immigration law, and then "made Aliyah" (immigrated to Israel), probably when these kids were very young, possibly the age of two, the age where Issac Asimov sneaked away in his parents' luggage when they immigated to America from the new USSR (they wanted the child to stay with relatives in case immigration did not work.) There is a large Russian contingent* of immigrants inside the "Holy Land", and the conditions have made many Israeli nationalists, if not outright racists. Skinhead-ism is an outright social disease inside Russia today** - you get to see a lot of people in biker jackets with swastika tattoos, and it has bled right into territories where Russian youth live outside of the former Soviet Union. As long as Russia is corrupt and playing with official Right-nationalism and as long as Israel is a settler state with a colonialist mentality, these sorts of "knight errants" of nationalism will still be running around, much as the Ku Klux Klan is on life support in America today.


* There is probably a smaller Ukrainian diaspora, but many Soviet Jews in Ukraine fled the Nazis if they could, going east into the Russian Soviet republic. If there is, the chances of them speaking a surzhik of Russo-Ukrainian are high. If there are Belarusians, chances are there of them speaking a Russo-Belarusian trasianka are also high. Cyrillic subtitling of Israeli TV is a thing.

** And by that term, I mean everything from football hooliganism to neo-National Socialist groups. Russia had "Pamyat" (Memory) as early as 1991 (though they were running around underground before, God knows how long) - they are defunct now, but I remember their ikonified swastika splash-page online with the photos of them marching in black quasi-Czarist uniforms. Beyond V. Zhironovsky's far right LDPR (Liberal Democratic Party, Russia - a name that is half lies), there are a vast swathe of far-Right parties, Cossack groups, and other timewasters. Putin's own United Russia party tried to steal away the youth energy of groups like the National Bolsheviks (Eduard Limonov's party/art project) with "Nashi" (Ours) when he felt that creating a giant fake political ecology could control the Russian populace. The end of the oil super-profits put the kibosh on that - Putin is sliding along under inertia now, having been the body of the octopus for nearly 20 years now.
Still "Globally Banned" on Wikipedia for the high crime of journalism.

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