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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:03 am

Lastly, let us visit the topic of Political Hyperbole. In Watts v. United States (1969), the US Supreme Court ruled that true threats against the President are not protected speech, but crude statements were political hyperbole, and nothing more. The media, and many congressmen, want to attack TheDonald for comments and posts that amounted to nothing more than Political Hyperbole in the early morning of January 6th, 2021. Even prior to the “attack on the Capitol”, TheDonald moderators regularly told their users to avoid people trying to incite violence. They pointed out that President Trump called for a Peaceful Protest and encouraged that and nothing more. Perhaps more could have been done to curtail some of the worst of the comments hidden in less prominent posts leading up to that date, but it surely cannot be said that nothing was done nor that the moderators were encouraging violence.
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:26 am

it seems the Jan 6 assault was facilitated partly by years of decline on the part of the Capitol Police. Incompetence and budget cutting. Reminds me of the frequent talks about 9/11 being thwarted, if the mighty "national security state" had actually done its job better.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i-do ... surrection

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:35 pm

ericbarbour wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:26 am
....Reminds me of the frequent talks about 9/11 being thwarted, if the mighty "national security state" had actually done its job better.
If we had not gotten involved with Afghanistan, had not paid for the "Arab-Afghan Bureau", had not had dealings with that Saudi weirdo of Yemeni extraction, that Osama bin Laden, 9/11 would have remained the dream of Qutbists (followers of Sayyid Ibrahim Husayn Shadhili Qutb) in the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and in other zones of Islamic Fundamentalism and not the reality we live with every day since 2001.

I support a total Congressional investigation of the riot, as long as they dish out fortnightly 2000 checks to all Americans. Give up on the F-35, Pentagon! It's the P-35 of the 21st century!
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:23 pm

Strelnikov wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:35 pm
I support a total Congressional investigation of the riot, as long as they dish out fortnightly 2000 checks to all Americans. Give up on the F-35, Pentagon! It's the P-35 of the 21st century!
Good example. Seversky was a nut--pushed out of the company bearing his name by his own board of directors. High performance promises. Always late, over budget, defective as hell, frequently crashed or shot down. The modern aerospace industry learned much from Seversky. Unfortunately.

Parler is back. Apparently that magnificent human buttplug Hannity is already posting on it.
https://parler.com/auth/access
https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/15/2228 ... ew-hosting

And the Lincoln Project (started by disgruntled Republicans to oppose Trump, and funded by wealthy neoliberals) is slowly sinking into the abyss. Thanks to the idiocy of its own leaders.
https://19thnews.org/2021/02/lincoln-pr ... workplace/
The interviews depict an organization that grew quickly, with little planning at its inception, and then began to spiral out of control as its founders quarreled over the organization’s direction, finances, tactics and even who would own the donor data that the project would eventually amass. Some of the co-founders had an informal management agreement that excluded the others, without their knowledge. Several had private firms to which the Lincoln Project channeled tens of millions of dollars that are then not subject to disclosure, while others were paid relatively modest amounts directly or nothing at all. There were clashes over ego and resentments over podcasts and television contracts.

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:42 am

ericbarbour wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:23 pm
Strelnikov wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:35 pm
I support a total Congressional investigation of the riot, as long as they dish out fortnightly 2000 checks to all Americans. Give up on the F-35, Pentagon! It's the P-35 of the 21st century!
Good example. Seversky was a nut--pushed out of the company bearing his name by his own board of directors. High performance promises. Always late, over budget, defective as hell, frequently crashed or shot down. The modern aerospace industry learned much from Seversky. Unfortunately.
His racers were good, but then the Granville Brothers (GB) racers, especially their "Model Z" had a lot of crashes because literally it's like a flying barrel with a giant engine. My beef with the P-35 was that the subvariant that was used in the Phillipines had a "wet" wing and no self-sealing fuel tanks, so they burned if they were hit and dribbled gas sitting on the runway if the sealant leaked. Those machines were destined for Sweden but the USAAC grabbed them in 1940, sent them to Mindanao. Seversky lost the firm over sending an AT-12 Guardsman (the two-man trainer version) to the USSR. Seversky did not suck as bad as Brewster and their F2A "Buffalo", an airplane hated by everybody but the Finns. I will say this for the P-35 -- it makes a very good subject for an RC plane: https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=92473
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:47 pm

let the civil suits begin! Blah blah blah!
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sho ... i-n1258092
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-in ... questions/
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/13/poli ... index.html

For background: Trump was usually quite good at squirming out from under legal claims like this in the past. One of his talents is in finding the most ruthless attorneys and siccing them on his enemies. His record on libel suits was all over the place--he was partly responsible for SPY magazine going bankrupt in the late 90s but he never won a major courtroom libel claim against major media outlets (that i can tell--reports like this had a habit of "disappearing" from archives). SPY did a LOT of sniping at him, some deserved and some just petty.

The Wikipedia list is badly assembled, focuses mostly on the silly suits his campaign fought in the last year, and far from complete. Most of his "colorful legal history" happened back when he was just a real-estate developer famous in local NYC media for his "eccentric" behaviour. As a much-disliked ex-president, things might be a little different now. Time will tell.

Trump Plaza was demolished.....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-plaz ... ntic-city/

And Limbaugh died FINALLY. I figured the cigars and greasy steaks (never forget the oxycodone abuse) would get his ass.

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:49 am

WELL, THIS WAS INEVITABLE
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:55 am

A song either Steve "meat sweats" Bannon or Steve "the Jewish Klansman" Miller would have approved of:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hTaUICHhGNWQ/

(It's Johnny Rebel's awful "comedy" song "Some N------rs never Die, They Just Smell That Way" from 1970-ish, though the backing music sounds pure 1962.)
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:18 pm

Strelnikov wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:55 am
A song either Steve "meat sweats" Bannon or Steve "the Jewish Klansman" Miller would have approved of:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hTaUICHhGNWQ/
Which reminds me of David Allan Coe:
In 1982, Coe released another independent album, Underground Album, which contained his most controversial song, "Nigger Fucker", which resulted in Coe being accused of racism.[27][28] Primarily because of this song, the material recorded by singer and white supremacist Johnny Rebel is mistakenly attributed to Coe. (Rebel, whose real name is Clifford Joseph Trahan, died in 2016.) AllMusic, which did not review Underground Album, gave it three out of five stars.[29] Coe responded to the accusations by saying "Anyone that hears this album and says I'm a racist, is full of shit."[6] Coe's drummer, Kerry Brown, is black and married to a white woman. Brown is the son of legendary blues musician Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown. When asked about Coe's X-rated albums, Brown stated “David Allan Coe was controversial. Some of the songs are really out there. But it's my life. When you live in the David Allan Coe world, you learn to be controversial.[30]
From Johnny Rebel; a bit of aw-shucks-i -didn't-mean-it.
In a 2003 interview, Trahan claimed that he "just did it for the money" and that he "didn't set out to spread hate or start trouble". He said "At that time, there was a lot of resentment – whites toward blacks and blacks toward whites. So, everybody had their own feelings. Lots of people changed their feelings over the years. I basically changed my feelings over the years up to a point."[5]
Hold up, aren't conservatives routinely screaming "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS" these days? Hmmm.

And what is Bannon up to these days?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/23/politics ... index.html
Not that it matters.....
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... e-n1280591

That right-wing foundation and super-PAC money is still talking.

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:37 am

In a 2003 interview, Trahan claimed that he "just did it for the money" and that he "didn't set out to spread hate or start trouble". He said "At that time, there was a lot of resentment – whites toward blacks and blacks toward whites. So, everybody had their own feelings. Lots of people changed their feelings over the years. I basically changed my feelings over the years up to a point."
Rebel being contrite was just the times; if Trump had been president in 2003, he would be a snarling KlanBeast. The conservative mass-mind of the Great Unwashed could not take Obama being president (and Obama did jack-shit for most people during the Great Recession, being a Reagan-loving centrist) so when a loose cannon like Trump stepped up and began making the right noises, they jumped on board his ship. America was at maximum icy-cold paranoia in 2003, Trahan didn't want to go to jail or pay a fine for being the great-grandfather of hatecore music (it's him and Skrewdriver [rest in piss Ian Stuart!]).
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