Meanwhile, in Germany, a landmark social media bill

[Soham321]

There was no criminal content in the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax.

You should take your complaint up the chain.

"other criminal content" is a broad term. Earlier in this thread, you wrote "It was admittedly biased against Australian Aboriginal religion but unless any Australian Aboriginal was targeted based on it then there isn't the faintest relationship to the potential new law." In other words you yourself are not certain of whether this hoax would be an instance of "other criminal content".

Bottomline is that If you insist on getting into a shit flinging contest with me here (and note that i stopped posting on PB WR only because of your excessive censorship about which i complained publicly) then i am happy to oblige you, but you'll have to resign as a moderator on this forum first. You can't have it both ways. Either abuse me as an ordinary forum member, or retain your Moderator responsibilities. You can't do both.

The Jar'Edo Wens hoax did not involve criminal content in any way. That is clear.

Take your complaint up with the others. The rules here specify that there may be disturbing content.

You complained over on the other forum because you felt that forum had to host your massage video that showed full frontal male nudity. That content didn't fit that forum and the other staff agreed without hesitation.

1. The massage content did *not* show full frontal male nudity. I posted the videos elsewhere because i anticipated this would come up at some point of time:

http://wikipediasucks.forumotion.com/t8 ... ic-massage

They are definitely not pornographic. Head massages are a part of Indian culture, Turkish massages (in a turkish bath) are a part of turkish culture. Hungarian baths (in special hot water pools) are a part of hungarian culture. There was nothing sexual in these videos. Censoring these videos shows a lack of respect for other cultures.

2. I made it clear that i stopped posting on the forum not because you censored the massage videos but because you started censoring relatively innocuous words like "ass". You informed me that you would not allow me to post this limerick:

There was a girl from Madras
who had a magnificent ass
it wasn't round and pink,as you probably think
it was grey, had long ears, and ate grass

After I left, Auggie removed the relatively innocuous words you had put in the censored words list. (Privately Auggie informed me that "i had a point" with respect to the large number of words you had started censoring.)

3. You write that "The Jar'Edo Wens hoax did not involve criminal content in any way. That is clear." But in an earlier post in this thread you said you were not sure. As you wrote "It was admittedly biased against Australian Aboriginal religion but unless any Australian Aboriginal was targeted based on it then there isn't the faintest relationship to the potential new law."

4. I gave links to some fake news content on WP in this thread after you made a specific request to me to do so.

5. My analysis is that you are feeling humiliated after I publicly protested your excessive censorship on PB WR and quit PB WR. You have been waiting to strike back at an opportune moment, and you thought this was it.

6. I am not going to ask anybody to remove you as Mod. I know as a Mod you don't have the power to ban me and that is good enough for me.

7. But I will keep reminding you that it is unethical and immoral on your part to indulge in shit flinging in a forum where you are also a Mod whenever you attempt to throw any shit at me. That will be sufficient to cover you with your own shit.

[Soham321]

Incidentally, the massage videos have a wikipedia connection. Some of the videos showed the masseur Baba Sen giving head massages to his customers. Baba Sen is actually mentioned in the 'Tourist attractions' section in the wikipedia article on the city of Pushkar, India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushkar#T ... ttractions (look for 'Baba the Cosmic Barber').

But, reckless to the need to give respect to other cultures, you decided to censor these videos which no doubt you felt repelled watching.

[Flip Flopped]

1. The massage content did *not* show full frontal male nudity. I posted the videos elsewhere because i anticipated this would come up at some point of time:

http://wikipediasucks.forumotion.com/t8 ... ic-massage

They are definitely not pornographic. Head massages are a part of Indian culture, Turkish massages (in a turkish bath) are a part of turkish culture. Hungarian baths (in special hot water pools) are a part of hungarian culture. There was nothing sexual in these videos. Censoring these videos shows a lack of respect for other cultures.

2. I made it clear that i stopped posting on the forum not because you censored the massage videos but because you started censoring relatively innocuous words like "ass". You informed me that you would not allow me to post this limerick:

There was a girl from Madras
who had a magnificent ass
it wasn't round and pink,as you probably think
it was grey, had long ears, and ate grass

After I left, Auggie removed the relatively innocuous words you had put in the censored words list. (Privately Auggie informed me that "i had a point" with respect to the large number of words you had started censoring.)

3. You write that "The Jar'Edo Wens hoax did not involve criminal content in any way. That is clear." But in an earlier post in this thread you said you were not sure. As you wrote "It was admittedly biased against Australian Aboriginal religion but unless any Australian Aboriginal was targeted based on it then there isn't the faintest relationship to the potential new law."

4. I gave links to some fake news content on WP in this thread after you made a specific request to me to do so.

5. My analysis is that you are feeling humiliated after I publicly protested your excessive censorship on PB WR and quit PB WR. You have been waiting to strike back at an opportune moment, and you thought this was it.

6. I am not going to ask anybody to remove you as Mod. I know as a Mod you don't have the power to ban me and that is good enough for me.

7. But I will keep reminding you that it is unethical and immoral on your part to indulge in shit flinging in a forum where you are also a Mod whenever you attempt to throw any shit at me. That will be sufficient to cover you with your own shit.

Here's the video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snIttk04p0 The pee-pees appear from timestamps 2:17 to 2:28 (roughly). It's full frontal male nudity, which is fine, but it's not right for a ProBoards forum. Nobody said anything about pornography. This is unrelated. I'm not getting into a discussion of whether full frontal male nudity is PG-13 in terms of American culture.

All the staff agreed that your Madras limerick was out of bounds.

You are making it up that I ever thought anything might possibly be criminal regarding the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax.

Your analysis is laughable. You left the other forum when the staff didn't agree that you could post stuff you wanted to like the Madras limerick and the Russian massage video with full frontal male nudity.

You made an overblown claim and used the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax as an example of something it's not related to. I called you out on it and you are upset about it. That's all that has happened.

[Flip Flopped]

Incidentally, the massage videos have a wikipedia connection. Some of the videos showed the masseur Baba Sen giving head massages to his customers. Baba Sen is actually mentioned in the 'Tourist attractions' section in the wikipedia article on the city of Pushkar, India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushkar#T ... ttractions (look for 'Baba the Cosmic Barber').

But, reckless to the need to give respect to other cultures, you decided to censor these videos which no doubt you felt repelled watching.

I'm the only person who watched the videos and I wasn't bothered by them in the least. This is only about ProBoard's ToS. That thread was removed by other staff because they didn't want it there. Another member was mystified that anyone had to be told not to post videos that included full frontal male nudity. You're risible.

[Soham321]

1. The massage content did *not* show full frontal male nudity. I posted the videos elsewhere because i anticipated this would come up at some point of time:

http://wikipediasucks.forumotion.com/t8 ... ic-massage

They are definitely not pornographic. Head massages are a part of Indian culture, Turkish massages (in a turkish bath) are a part of turkish culture. Hungarian baths (in special hot water pools) are a part of hungarian culture. There was nothing sexual in these videos. Censoring these videos shows a lack of respect for other cultures.

2. I made it clear that i stopped posting on the forum not because you censored the massage videos but because you started censoring relatively innocuous words like "ass". You informed me that you would not allow me to post this limerick:

There was a girl from Madras
who had a magnificent ass
it wasn't round and pink,as you probably think
it was grey, had long ears, and ate grass

After I left, Auggie removed the relatively innocuous words you had put in the censored words list. (Privately Auggie informed me that "i had a point" with respect to the large number of words you had started censoring.)

3. You write that "The Jar'Edo Wens hoax did not involve criminal content in any way. That is clear." But in an earlier post in this thread you said you were not sure. As you wrote "It was admittedly biased against Australian Aboriginal religion but unless any Australian Aboriginal was targeted based on it then there isn't the faintest relationship to the potential new law."

4. I gave links to some fake news content on WP in this thread after you made a specific request to me to do so.

5. My analysis is that you are feeling humiliated after I publicly protested your excessive censorship on PB WR and quit PB WR. You have been waiting to strike back at an opportune moment, and you thought this was it.

6. I am not going to ask anybody to remove you as Mod. I know as a Mod you don't have the power to ban me and that is good enough for me.

7. But I will keep reminding you that it is unethical and immoral on your part to indulge in shit flinging in a forum where you are also a Mod whenever you attempt to throw any shit at me. That will be sufficient to cover you with your own shit.

Here's the video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snIttk04p0 The pee-pees appear from timestamps 2:17 to 2:28 (roughly). It's full frontal male nudity, which is fine, but it's not right for a ProBoards forum. Nobody said anything about pornography. This is unrelated. I'm not getting into a discussion of whether full frontal male nudity is PG-13 in terms of American culture.

All the staff agreed that your Madras limerick was out of bounds.

You are making it up that I ever thought anything might possibly be criminal regarding the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax.

Your analysis is laughable. You left the other forum when the staff didn't agree that you could post stuff you wanted to like the Madras limerick and the Russian massage video with full frontal male nudity.

You made an overblown claim and used the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax as an example of something it's not related to. I called you out on it and you are upset about it. That's all that has happened.

1. As pointed out by Dark Knight on PB WR, there is no mention of PG-13 in the PB terms of service rules.

2. The full nudity is visible for a few seconds in a single BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) video. Less than 10 seconds.Your censoring this video is akin to someone censoring a CNN video. Childish, and showing complete lack of respect for other cultures. Your removing all the videos, including ones for Indian head massages, and hungarian hot spring baths--which did not have any full nudity-- shows a lack of respect for other cultures.

And how is the BBC video a ground to remove all the massage videos including the head massage videos by an Indian barber who is mentioned in a Wikipedia article?

The reason why Auggie went along with your view on the massage videos is similar to your reason: lack of respect or lack of exposure to other cultures.

3. With respect to the Madras limerick, Auggie informed me in a private message that 'i had a point' when i complained about its childish censorship. Shortly after I left, Auggie removed many of the censored words you had placed the PB WR forum under:

With all due appreciation for Flip for putting it together back when we needed it quickly, I have relaxed the censored word list a bit. It is now more in line with what you'd hear on prime time tv on a major network.

http://wikipediareview.proboards.com/th ... -word-list

As far as i know, the word 'ass' is now permitted on PB WR and hence i would be able to post the limerick now.

4. I left the forum despite Auggie asking me in a private message to return after taking a break. PB WR is Auggie's forum, not your forum. But as a matter of principle i refuse to participate in a forum with excessive censorship.

5. I never made any claim about the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax in my original post in this thread. You asked me for examples of fake news on WP and only then did i gave a few links in response which included the link to the Jar'Edo Wens Wikipedia hoax. I clarified that my favorite example was of the Professor who designed an entire course in which his students were inserting fake news on WP.

6. My analysis is that you are a very vindictive person who is capable of holding long term grudges. You succeeded in driving me out of PB WR and now you are making a determined effort to get me to stop posting here as well. Ovidstears was not completely off the mark in his assessment of you.

[Soham321]

Incidentally, the massage videos have a wikipedia connection. Some of the videos showed the masseur Baba Sen giving head massages to his customers. Baba Sen is actually mentioned in the 'Tourist attractions' section in the wikipedia article on the city of Pushkar, India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushkar#T ... ttractions (look for 'Baba the Cosmic Barber').

But, reckless to the need to give respect to other cultures, you decided to censor these videos which no doubt you felt repelled watching.

I'm the only person who watched the videos and I wasn't bothered by them in the least. This is only about ProBoard's ToS. That thread was removed by other staff because they didn't want it there. Another member was mystified that anyone had to be told not to post videos that included full frontal male nudity. You're risible.

You kept talking about PG-13 and Dark Knight pointed out that there is nothing in PB's TOS that talks of PG-13. You had no reply to this. The full nudity was in a BBC (British broadcasting corporation) video that lasted for less than 10 seconds. Censoring this video is akin to censoring CNN. And how does this one video excuse your removing all the other videos including the ones for the Indian head massages, turkish bath massage, and hungarian hot water public bath? The only reason you removed these videos were because you were repelled by them, and the reason you were repelled by them is because you do not have respect for other cultures.

[Flip Flopped]

1. As pointed out by Dark Knight on PB WR, there is no mention of PG-13 in the PB terms of service rules.

Take your complaint up with ProBoards or the staff at the other forum. Your account isn't blocked there.

2. The full nudity is visible for a few seconds in a single BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) video. Less than 10 seconds.Your censoring this video is akin to someone censoring a CNN video. Childish, and showing complete lack of respect for other cultures. Your removing all the videos, including ones for Indian head massages, and hungarian hot spring baths--which did not have any full nudity-- shows a lack of respect for other cultures.

And how is the BBC video a ground to remove all the massage videos including the head massage videos by an Indian barber who is mentioned in a Wikipedia article?

The reason why Auggie went along with your view on the massage videos is similar to your reason: lack of respect or lack of exposure to other cultures.

I redacted the link to one video. Other staff decided to delete that entire thread of yours without any prompting by me. The other staff didn't want your thread on massage. Go ask them why if you care so much.

3. With respect to the Madras limerick, Auggie informed me in a private message that 'i had a point' when i complained about its childish censorship. Shortly after I left, Auggie removed many of the censored words you had placed the PB WR forum under:

With all due appreciation for Flip for putting it together back when we needed it quickly, I have relaxed the censored word list a bit. It is now more in line with what you'd hear on prime time tv on a major network.

http://wikipediareview.proboards.com/th ... -word-list

As far as i know, the word 'ass' is now permitted on PB WR and hence i would be able to post the limerick now.

Nope. You are still not allowed to post that limerick there. It's because staff unanimously decided not to allow the limerick.

6. My analysis is that you are a very vindictive person who is capable of holding long term grudges. You succeeded in driving me out of PB WR and now you are making a determined effort to get me to stop posting here as well. Ovidstears was not completely off the mark in his assessment of you.

I do not care what you think.

[Flip Flopped]

You kept talking about PG-13 and Dark Knight pointed out that there is nothing in PB's TOS that talks of PG-13. You had no reply to this. The full nudity was in a BBC (British broadcasting corporation) video that lasted for less than 10 seconds. Censoring this video is akin to censoring CNN. And how does this one video excuse your removing all the other videos including the ones for the Indian head massages, turkish bath massage, and hungarian hot water public bath? The only reason you removed these videos were because you were repelled by them, and the reason you were repelled by them is because you do not have respect for other cultures.

You are fighting to include a video that contains full frontal male nudity on a site that allows kids. I posted the link myself in this forum which is limited to adult participation. The other forum has different rules. No male full frontal nudity is allowed on that forum. This isn't a strange rule for a site that allows kids.

[Soham321]

You kept talking about PG-13 and Dark Knight pointed out that there is nothing in PB's TOS that talks of PG-13. You had no reply to this. The full nudity was in a BBC (British broadcasting corporation) video that lasted for less than 10 seconds. Censoring this video is akin to censoring CNN. And how does this one video excuse your removing all the other videos including the ones for the Indian head massages, turkish bath massage, and hungarian hot water public bath? The only reason you removed these videos were because you were repelled by them, and the reason you were repelled by them is because you do not have respect for other cultures.

You are fighting to include a video that contains full frontal male nudity on a site that allows kids. I posted the link myself in this forum which is limited to adult participation. The other forum has different rules. No male full frontal nudity is allowed on that forum. This isn't a strange rule for a site that allows kids.

First, the rule being invoked for removing the BBC video is not a PB WR rule. It is your own rule which you have made up because of your lack of empathy or exposure or respect for other cultures. That is why you had no answer to Dark Knight's comment that nowhere in PB's Terms of Service do they talk about PG-13. Second, this is an excuse for removing one single video (the BBC video) not all the videos. Only this BBC video had the full frontal nudity lasting a few seconds; the other videos did not provide you with this excuse.

[Soham321]

1. As pointed out by Dark Knight on PB WR, there is no mention of PG-13 in the PB terms of service rules.

Take your complaint up with ProBoards or the staff at the other forum. Your account isn't blocked there.

not worth my time considering i am not interested in posting on PB WR.

2. The full nudity is visible for a few seconds in a single BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) video. Less than 10 seconds.Your censoring this video is akin to someone censoring a CNN video. Childish, and showing complete lack of respect for other cultures. Your removing all the videos, including ones for Indian head massages, and hungarian hot spring baths--which did not have any full nudity-- shows a lack of respect for other cultures.

And how is the BBC video a ground to remove all the massage videos including the head massage videos by an Indian barber who is mentioned in a Wikipedia article?

The reason why Auggie went along with your view on the massage videos is similar to your reason: lack of respect or lack of exposure to other cultures.

I redacted the link to one video. Other staff decided to delete that entire thread of yours without any prompting by me. The other staff didn't want your thread on massage. Go ask them why if you care so much.

not worth my time considering i am not interested in posting on PB WR.

3. With respect to the Madras limerick, Auggie informed me in a private message that 'i had a point' when i complained about its childish censorship. Shortly after I left, Auggie removed many of the censored words you had placed the PB WR forum under:

With all due appreciation for Flip for putting it together back when we needed it quickly, I have relaxed the censored word list a bit. It is now more in line with what you'd hear on prime time tv on a major network.

http://wikipediareview.proboards.com/th ... -word-list

As far as i know, the word 'ass' is now permitted on PB WR and hence i would be able to post the limerick now.

Nope. You are still not allowed to post that limerick there. It's because staff unanimously decided not to allow the limerick.

Thanks for the clarification. This only reinforces my view about the silly and childish censorship on PB WR which do not make it worthwhile for any serious poster to bother posting there. They should all move here.

6. My analysis is that you are a very vindictive person who is capable of holding long term grudges. You succeeded in driving me out of PB WR and now you are making a determined effort to get me to stop posting here as well. Ovidstears was not completely off the mark in his assessment of you.

I do not care what you think.

Then why did you ask me to give you links to fake news articles on Wikipedia in a reply to a thread started by me (this thread)? (And when i gave the links, you used one of the links to start attacking me.) In future, please keep away from me if you do not care about what I think.