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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

Post by HRA1924 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:18 pm

Soham321 wrote:
HRA1924 wrote:This is all quite interesting, but hardly new for us and what does it have to do with HRA (Hindustan Republican Army) ?

1. RSS = Right wing, HRA = EXTREME Left wing
2. RSS = British collabarators who never fought for independence. HRA = actively anti-imperialist dedicated to the philosophy of the bomb with thousands of martyrs (also known as Bengal terrorists).
3. RSS = Vande Mataram , HRA= Jana Gana Mana.

Perhaps this will educate you better than wikipedia.
https://thewire.in/33418/manufactured-a ... -struggle/

If you still have any doubts you can compare the manifesto of HRA and HRA
http://shahidbhagatsingh.org/index.asp? ... olutionary
with
http://indiaagainstcorruption.org.in/in ... CManifesto

So move along, nothing here for you.
the claim that HRA is extreme left wing is frivolous and false. the claim that HRA fought the British is also false. Anyone can adopt the name of any organization. HRA is trying to hijack the legacy of Bhagat Singh but the fact remains that Bhagat Singh was an atheist while HRA believe in mixing religion with politics (and that too only one religion--hinduism)
HRA is extreme left wing and was banned by the British Raj (and is still banned).
Bhagat Singh was a primarily member of HRSA and not HRA, and religion(non-religion) has always been a personal choice and never a factor against the common enemy.
HRA was Sachindranath Sanyal, Anushilan Samiti and Jugantar (despite the superficial rivalry between those last two).
HRA does not propagate Hinduism, they propagate Hindutwa (which is "Indianness" - a way of life and not religion- and transcends Hinduism - especially the lower forms of populist Hinduism derived from forged books, shastras and purans by charlatans).
HRA is not RSS nor is it BJP, and they don't wear chaddis/knickers. Perhaps you are confusing kacchas with chaddis.
HRA is not political but revolutionary, so mixing of religion and politics does not arise.

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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

Post by HRA1924 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:11 pm

Soham321 wrote:1. Just because someone claims they are revolutionary and do not mix religion and politics does not necessarily make them so.
2. On his twitter page, your boss Sarbajit Roy has made it clear that he believes in mixing religion with politics:
https://twitter.com/IACFEED/status/6989 ... 85/photo/1
Roy has given, and endorsed, these words of Debendranath Tagore:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMsH9mUsAA4uul.png

3. Thanks for proclaiming that HRA propagates Hindutva. Hindutva is also propagated by the BJP/RSS who are currently in power in India. Hindutva denotes mixing of religion with politics. That is why BJP politicians love using this word to denote their world view.

4. The words 'chaddi' and 'chaddiwalahs' were used in the BBC article (whose extract and link i gave earlier in this thread) to denote Hindutvas. I give below the link to the BBC article together with a brief extract:

Indians outraged at an attack on women for drinking in a bar have gathered together to send a provocative gift of underwear to right-wing activists...A spokeswoman for the group, Nisha Susan, told the BBC it was giving chaddis (Hindi colloquial for underwear) as they alluded to a prominent Hindu right-wing group whose khaki-shorts-wearing cadres were often derisively called "chaddi wallahs" (chaddi wearers).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7880377.stm

1. Roy is not my boss, neither is he boss of HRA. Roy is with IAC and Roy has never claimed to be boss of HRA. The IAC page says that Roy took permission from the Hindustan Republican Army to use their name in 2007. Roy's private religious beliefs have nothing to do with HRA.
2. It is only corrupt old former-RSS farts like Katju who confuse Hinduism and Hindutwa and disrespect the national anthem in favour of Vande Mataram.
3. Hindutwa is not the exclusive domain of BJP, RSS or HRA, and a Pakistani troll like you should know it.
4. How much did Dipak Misra pay you to write his wikipedia article ?

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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

Post by HRA1924 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:25 pm

Soham321 wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMsH9mUsAA4uul.png
Do you disagree with these words, if so why ?
The entire Prarthana Samaj, Hindu Samaj and much of Arya Samaj also agreed with it, when they wrote to the Law Commission of India on triple talaq.

Kind Attention : The Secretary / Law Commission of India

Respected Sir,

The Hindu Samaj, a national movement for reforming the Hindu religions (Dharma) in India inspired by Maharshi Devendranath Tagore and Sri Aurobindo of Adi Brahmo Samaj is responding to the Law Commission UCC proforma as under.

Hindu Samaj's response was also circulated and extensively discussed by all the Hindu Samaj delegates to the 126th All India Brahmo Conference at New Delhi held between 12th and 13th November 2016 and our appended filing may be deemed as the final response of the Hindu Samaj to this vexed issue.

The Hindu Samaj stand on UCC is very clear, we oppose intrusion of State into the religious domain by stating - "We are Hindus first and Indians second .. our Motherland is dear to us but our religion is dearer"

Kindly place our response before the entire Commission for their due consideration. The elders of Hindu Samaj also wish to personally meet with the Hon'ble Commission and have personal hearing in this matter.

Respectfully

Lt. Col (Retd) Rajendra Dalvi
Pracharak
Hindu Samaj

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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

Post by HRA1924 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:31 pm

Soham321 wrote:
HRA1924 wrote:
Soham321 wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbMsH9mUsAA4uul.png
Do you disagree with these words, if so why ?
The entire Prarthana Samaj, Hindu Samaj and much of Arya Samaj also agreed with it, when they wrote to the Law Commission of India on triple talaq.

Kind Attention : The Secretary / Law Commission of India

Respected Sir,

The Hindu Samaj, a national movement for reforming the Hindu religions (Dharma) in India inspired by Maharshi Devendranath Tagore and Sri Aurobindo of Adi Brahmo Samaj is responding to the Law Commission UCC proforma as under.

Hindu Samaj's response was also circulated and extensively discussed by all the Hindu Samaj delegates to the 126th All India Brahmo Conference at New Delhi held between 12th and 13th November 2016 and our appended filing may be deemed as the final response of the Hindu Samaj to this vexed issue.

The Hindu Samaj stand on UCC is very clear, we oppose intrusion of State into the religious domain by stating - "We are Hindus first and Indians second .. our Motherland is dear to us but our religion is dearer"

Kindly place our response before the entire Commission for their due consideration. The elders of Hindu Samaj also wish to personally meet with the Hon'ble Commission and have personal hearing in this matter.

Respectfully

Lt. Col (Retd) Rajendra Dalvi
Pracharak
Hindu Samaj


I disagree with these words because in my opinion religion should be one's private affair. It should have no bearing on politics. Any political organization which uses religion to further its agenda should be shunned.

HRA is not a political organisation. It is a revolutionary movement.

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Re: Random thoughts on Wikipedia's blocking policy

Post by Flip Flopped » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:18 pm

HRA1924 wrote:HRA is not RSS nor is it BJP, and they don't wear chaddis/knickers.
Best line!

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