If we were to poll the people here, how many would rather read what I write than what you write?
Speaking about reading, where is aggies last posting?
Back in your basket, Auggie.
You mean just let a post disappear, Vig?
If we were to poll the people here, how many would rather read what I write than what you write?
Back in your basket, Auggie.
I've noticed that you've been plagiarizing his legal page for your mutterings on sucks.
Asked and answered.Edit: hahahhaha... crow...you puddinhead
You fell for her act hook line and sinker.
Do a deep dive on her - see what you find.
Carcharoth wrote:You may need to link back to what you found previously (somewhere in this thread). It is quite likely that many people missed it first time round.
Here we see, laid out in full, the basis for the current situation.
As someone in that convo said, we see the than a things, we have just made different conclusions.Please be a lot more careful not to make stupid mistakes, like you did here. The constant cleanup your edits need is rather tiresome and worrisome. Fram (talk) 07:19, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
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my advice is to rely on the support of your peers as you cannot aspire to be in the same tiresome league as some. Victuallers (talk) 14:18, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
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Fram, the issue seems to be how you address her. Perhaps let someone else deal with it from now on? SarahSV (talk) 01:29, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
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You are bullying Fram. No one is taking any notice of your comments here. Laura, I'm sure, just reads the sign-off tag and then just ignores the stuff you post here. I would suggest she just deletes it. It doesn't matter how poor you consider her or her editting, because the only way to deal with bullying is to ignore it - which is what I would advise. I think there are a number of editors here who would help Laura if she asks, but it is you who needs help, but you have to want to change. I presume you don't like being friendly or you would do it more often. You have seen how unwelcome your comments are and how ineffective they are in making change but you still return to remind us of your abusive approach. If we have abusive editors and imperfect editors then its the latter we need most. We can fix articles but poor, bullying and ineffective communication requires you to appreciate that it needs fixing. It doesnt benefit you or the project and it just makes people less content with what should be an enjoyable and altruistic pastime. I try to appreciate that Laura's editting is making you unhappy and you want it to improve. Isn't that what we are saying to you? Don't edit to make people unhappy when there is clearly no benefit to you, her or the project. At least please refrain from posting on a users page who has asked you to not do so. Victuallers (talk) 13:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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There is a fine line here between constructively suggesting edits to avoid BLP violations, and claiming that there are BLP violations when there are none. The way I see it, right now it's leaving well towards the latter than it is towards the former. Inasmuch as I'd want to think you're trying to be helpful, I'm doubtful statements like "I will post here anytime she makes edits bad enough", where you have to police Laura (and just Laura) out of a whim, will help make your case. Have we really gone so far astray that we can't assume good faith for what is nothing at best, and perhaps an infinitesimal error at worst? --Sky Harbor (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Check again. Nobody will be convinced by the findings of people who are so obviously either biased or incompetent.The other side is refusing to talk about the terrible quality of Hale's edits and is laser focused on Fram being a bully.
Way to go dude, you're so creepy, you creeped out this Bishonen cut out.The_Adversary wrote:Eeeeh, actually, I have pictures of myself, in my younger years, taken with BFFs, looking very much like this (And I have never been a lesbian, or even bi.)
It is not so unusual (at least not in my country) that females (or males, or female/male) hug one another, without there being a sexual component.
(Actually, I always used to hug my dad whenever I saw him (and please, don't make that into anything untoward)
Vigilant wrote:Bottom line:
LXXXX HXXX is mentally ill and has been grifting people forever.
Seriously? You're gonna flap your gums as if you know what's going on with FramBan, and you don't even know the main actors?Who is this Swarm twat?
If that's a serious post, you really have lost all credibility. Is there nothing Wikipediocracy is willing to blame Jimmy for?Which lays the current debacle firmly at Jimmy's feet.
Dude, don't even act like you have standards now, what you've posted is already beyond the pale. As for pretending you don't enjoy it, that it wears you out and makes you feel sick...come on. How stupid do you think people are? This isn't investigation. You either get your jollies from scaring women, or you want to fuck her, or maybe even a bit of both? She should rightly consider you a threat to her safety, and consider all those who find common cause with you, including several shitheel Wikipedia Administrators, untouchables like Black Kite, to be just as guilty. It is hilarious that you can't see what it must be like for someone who thought they had a friend in the Foundation, see them hand over the responsibility of rooting out these black hearted devil dogs over to the very community that protects them. Vanishing is her only option, just as it always has been for women on Wikipedia in a world where Wikipediocracy is supposedly the Wikipedia watchdog.I've found some stuff even I won't post here.
If she is the complainant, then the whole case falls apart due to an utter lack of credibility on the part of the witness facilitated by a failure of due diligence on the part of the WMF T&S.
If she was abetted by/conspired with Maria Sefidari, than Sefidari needs to be removed immediately.
All that dumpster diving, and all he's got is still some very big IFS and an entirely toxic idea that somehow harassment can be justified by the victim's past or present conduct.Goes to the credibility of the witness, your honor.
If the initial complaint is invalid, then any sentence handed down must be withdrawn.
Hale's history of serial lying, manipulation and backstabbing stretching back two decades over dozens of websites really should be looked at hard.