Graaf Statler wrote:Yesterday when I booted Dysk's Discord because of the constant crashing of topics by Abd Lomax and the many, may gamers and goofy wikipedia mods who Dysk has given sysop rights too. And had a quick look at the modern games there. (it's a gamers thing.) And yes, I saw and understand the gender confusing created there now.
Okay. what actually happened? Graaf was demanding that I answer questions that I had already answered, often just with "you have not answered the question" or the like. This is troll behavior, though it could also represent a deep disorder.
I actually put Graaf on Mute, because nothing was working to get through to him.
Graaf was also attacking a woman often associated with Dysk, demanding to know her age. Graaf claimed that Dysk and this woman, these "kids", were trolling me, pretending to agree with or to support me, all as a joke.
The woman had set server permissions so that major participants were all Moderators, so we could not act on each other, and that included Graaf.
Dysk, who owns the server, created a role, OP, giving it administrative permissions, and assigned two users to this role, being me and the woman. At 5:55 PM GMT-4, 2019/08/19, the woman removed Graaf's Mod privilege, replacing it with Level 1 access, but then any Mod could ban. Another user, also a Mod, repeatedly warned Graaf to stop flooding the server with complaints. He continued, so he was banned at 6:40 GMT-4. At 6:59 PM GMT-4, Graaf left the server.
So he did not leave because of what he claims above. He was banned for his behavior.
I was rummaging around Wikipediocracy and noticed this thread: Statler vs. Versieck (split from Lomax v. WMF thread)
That showed a thread on the same Discord server. In fact, I think I remember that thread. It all seemed mysterious at the time. Why was Statler attacking Bart Versiek? I never got a straight story out of Graaf. But what appears is that Graaf attacks people who have been his friends, people who appeared to support him and whom he appeared to support.
I acknowledge extensive support from Graaf. He can be kind and thoughtful. However, as I wrote on Reddit, something is broken. reddit: cogent_wikipedia_criticism_sites
Vigilant saw that comment and translated it to make it mean what it did not mean. Many people have "something broken" that I would not call "insane," even though most of us are, much of the time, insane in some sense or other, if we are honest and have self-knowledge. Vigilant, however, is vicious, full of hatred and contempt, and he's been that way for many years. Something is broken in Graaf's world, and I don't know what it is, but it makes him paranoid and often unintelligible. I encouraged him to spend more time in his garden, and as well, in communion with "the monk," a figure he told me about, who was always deep and wise. I think Graaf forgot the monk, obsessed with "gamers" and other stories.
What happened on the Discord server had nothing to do with gamers. As well, to my knowledge, there are no Wikipedia administrators with Mod privileges on the server. (They would be welcome, it's an eclectic community, and Graaf was also very welcome, even specially accommodated, but he totally trashed it.) His ban from the server was unanimously supported, no objections. He'd probably be welcomed back, but I'd not recommend it for him. Wikipedia or related involvement is clearly toxic for him, unless and until he deals with what is underneath that paranoia.