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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:45 am

Flip Flopped wrote:
Strelnikov wrote:
Flip Flopped wrote:Didn't The_Donald go dark for part of a day because they got in Reddit-trouble for something?


Yes, on the 20th of May they crossed some sort of line and Reddit switched the forum "off" for X-number of hours, then turned it back on. I can't find any mentions outside of The_Donald itself.
I heard about it on Twitter. The_Donald was going to go dark in protest for 24 or 48 hours after they got the forum back. They ended their protest early and a gave reason like "popular demand."


....And that is why I think these clowns will go ballistic when Trump resigns/is impeached/suddenly dies in office. The entire site will be "brigaded" by screaming nutsos barfing out "MAGA! TRUMP WILL RISE AGAIN!!! COME BACK TO US OUR BELOVED FÜHRER!!!!!" or words to that effect, and things will get Mad Max ugly quick.
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:02 am

Some ranting from Keith Olbermann:



Olbermann on Trump vs. North Korea, below.


Art Buchwald Fights Trump from Beyond the Grave.



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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Strelnikov wrote:And something for suckadmin.

LOL, the "true Internet userbase". Hundred bucks says T_D is full of real guys like this (except they're not at all funny).

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:13 pm

This crappy administration moves at the speed of light....

Just to prove that Trump is a massive bag of shit, he pardoned Joe Arpaio even though that is totally counterproductive to anybody in the White House trying to raise Trump's polling scores out of the toilet. Even if he survives the full four years (which I doubt), I think his re-election is impossible.

Meanwhile, the one monstrosity in the Trump administration that I was hoping would be the last man standing has quit: America is now
Gorka-less. The only member of the White House who had the guts to call Chapo Trap House more than once (snicker), his booming Brian Blessed-style voice will be missed....even though he was the wonk equivalent of a loud crackhead.


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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Flip Flopped » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:14 am

Strelnikov wrote:This crappy administration moves at the speed of light....

Just to prove that Trump is a massive bag of shit, he pardoned Joe Arpaio even though that is totally counterproductive to anybody in the White House trying to raise Trump's polling scores out of the toilet. Even if he survives the full four years (which I doubt), I think his re-election is impossible.

Meanwhile, the one monstrosity in the Trump administration that I was hoping would be the last man standing has quit: America is now
Gorka-less. The only member of the White House who had the guts to call Chapo Trap House more than once (snicker), his booming Brian Blessed-style voice will be missed....even though he was the wonk equivalent of a loud crackhead.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BYQvpQ0HpOa/
Yesterday the White House claimed that Kelly told Gorka not to bother returning from vacation, so he was fired, but he claims he quit. Kelly's time is numbered because Trump doesn't like competence. I'm concerned Trump might boot McMaster since McMaster has had trouble figuring out how to trick Trump into thinking he's not being talked down to.

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:22 am

Felix Sater is now a thing:

....Felix Sater, a Moscow-born businessman now at the centre of the Trump-Russia affair, says he lives by a simple code: “Screw me once, shame on you; screw me twice, shame on me for letting it happen.”

As the Trump presidency finds itself increasingly hemmed in by an investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, and as key protagonists hire their own lawyers and reportedly make their own arrangements with prosecutors, they are words likely to become ever more relevant to those caught in the whirlpool.

Sater – a former Trump associate who the president has in recent years had trouble recalling – repeated the motto more than once in exchanges with the Guardian, while asking for fair coverage of his past. He insists it has sustained him through a convoluted and colourful life that led him from Moscow to Wall Street to prison to the freewheeling world of international real estate deals, secret arrangements with US law enforcement and intelligence agencies – and ultimately, to Trump Tower.

Whatever the truth of Donald Trump’s relationship with the Kremlin and Vladimir Putin, Sater is likely to end up being part of the story. He surfaced this week in leaked emails that he sent in 2015 to Trump’s lawyer, claiming he could engineer Putin’s support for a Trump Tower in Moscow and thus, somehow, a victory in the US presidential election.

“Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Sater said, according to one of the emails, leaked to the New York Times. “I will get all of Putin’s team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

The real estate deal never happened, but Sater’s predictions of a world-changing political triumph proved to be prescient. Quite what that triumph had to do with Putin is now under scrutiny by a special counsel in Washington and a handful of congressional committees.

Sater’s links to Trump’s circle can be traced back to not long after he came to the US as a child. His father, Mikhail Sheferovsky (who changed the family name after arriving in New York) became a local crime boss in Brighton Beach and Sater grew up on that side of Brooklyn, where he got to know another teenager in the neighbourhood, Michael Cohen, a Long Island boy who would go on to become Trump’s personal lawyer and vice-president of the Trump Organization.

Three decades later, it was Cohen whom Sater contacted when he thought he could win Putin’s backing for a Moscow real estate deal and Trump’s presidential run.

Sater first came directly into Trump’s orbit when he teamed up with one of his neighbours, another Soviet-born striver, Tevfik Arif, a Kazakh developer who set up the Bayrock real estate firm in 2001 with offices in Trump Tower. Sater rose to become managing director, and Bayrock went into partnership with Trump to build the Trump Soho hotel.

Trump, Arif and Sater were masters of ceremonies at the official opening in Manhattan in September 2007, and pictures of the event show them basking together in the glow of the publicity.

Sater was forced out of the limelight not long after, when details of his criminal record appeared. His first career as a stockbroker had come to a sudden end when he was jailed for slashing a man with the stem of a shattered margarita glass.When he emerged from a year of prison (“the worst time in my life”, he told Talking Points Memo), he got involved in a mob-run stock exchange scam, persuading gullible customers to buy worthless shares.

He was caught again but this time he did not go to jail. Instead, he and two other defendants struck a deal with the US government, offering his services in return for leniency. The extent of what he did for government agencies is not exactly clear.

According to a book co-authored by another defendant in the case, Salvatore Lauria, Sater used his contacts in the Russian underworld to help the CIA buy back Stinger missiles that had fallen into the hands of Afghan jihadists, although the buy-back scheme failed. Sater has claimed that his secret work in Russia for the CIA started before the stock fraud was exposed.....

- "Could This Sketchy Trump Associate Be the One to Bring His Presidency Crashing Down?", The Guardian, Stephanie Kirchgaessner, Julian Borger

Alternet going after Jared and Ivanka:

....Here are eight reasons Jared and Ivanka are as despicable as anyone in Trump's White House.

1. They’re kind of jerks.

She's the daughter of a billionaire narcissist and pathological liar whose previous claim to fame was firing people on national television. He's the son of a billionaire who tried to avoid jail on corruption charges by framing a witness (who also happened to be his brother-in-law) using a surreptitiously recorded sexual encounter with a prostitute he “personally recruited” for the job. Who would ever guess these two lovestruck billion-dollar babies, who have chosen to support and serve an unabashed kleptocrat, would be anything but pleasant and trustworthy? Surprisingly, they’re not, according to insiders.

“She tries to charm you at first, and then there’ll be the cutting remark in front of her father,” a former adviser told Ellison about Ivanka. Ellison writes that though Kushner “tries to be casual and jokes with other staffers, [he] can have even more of an edge.” When reportedly asked by the former chief-of-staff what Kushner and his small team were working on, Jared responded, “Reince, we aren’t getting paid. What the f**k do you care?”

Ellison also notes that “Kushner and Ivanka have complicitly engaged in Trump’s humiliation of various staffers, be it West Wing aides [Steve] Bannon, Priebus, and Kellyanne Conway, or Cabinet members such as Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.”

2. Ivanka has a nickname she definitely didn’t choose herself.

Ellison notes that “‘Princess Royal’ is a term that some West Wing advisers apply to her, though never to her face.”

3. Their inflated sense of self-importance, lack of political experience and inability to recognize either have made them almost universally disliked in Washington.

Ivanka and Kushner have lengthy resumes that display their commitment to upholding the long-honored institution of nepotism. What they do not have is any political experience other than what they’re gaining right now in yet another position bestowed upon them by one of their rich dads. In a political town like D.C., according to “one Washington veteran” Ellison spoke with, the right thing to do when the couple arrived would have been to “take a seat a little off to the side, at least until they get their bearings." But according to that same source, Kushner and Ivanka are bereft of the “necessary self-awareness [to] understand how to behave when you roll into Washington as the creature of someone else.”

“What is off-putting about them is they do not grasp their essential irrelevance,” the source told Ellison. “They think they are special.”

4. Their inexperience is apparent in their efforts.

Ivanka and Kusher met with Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards for an informational interview about the organization. Ellison describes the meeting as “cordial,” and while no formal promises were made, Ivanka had imagined she would ultimately emerge as “a kind of referee between the Republicans clamoring to defund Planned Parenthood and the organization itself.” For years, the GOP has been gunning for Planned Parenthood—which provides a huge range of health care services to 2.4 million men, women and teens every year—but Ivanka didn’t seem to understand the politics at play. After a Republican health care bill proposed defunding the organization entirely, Ivanka suggested to Richards that Planned Parenthood “stop offering abortions and the White House would advocate increased funding” for its offices around the country.

When Richards declined the offer, Ivanka’s surrogates attempted to go over her head, pitching the same politically unworkable idea to board members. “It completely backfired,” an observer of the process told Ellison. “It wasn’t just naïve from a Planned Parenthood perspective. It was naïve that the Republican House would have accepted it, because it would have meant keeping Planned Parenthood open.”

In a dig at Ivanka, Richards later stated that every member of the Trump team “is responsible for addressing why women are in the crosshairs of basically every single policy that we’ve seen out of this administration.”

5. They have no real pull in the White House.

Whether through lack of effort or sheer ineffectiveness, Ivanka and Kushner have proven they will not be “moderating influences” in the Trump White House. Ellison points to a Politico report that says Ivanka found out about her father’s transgender military ban via Twitter. Each of Kushner and Ivanka's failures to influence Trump's agenda, from climate change to LGBT rights, has raised the volume of critical voices. “You can’t prevent him from trying to defund Planned Parenthood or getting out of the Paris Agreement?” a political consultant remarked rhetorically, echoing the sentiments of others around D.C. “What are you good for?”

One interviewee suggested the two are really there to serve as emotional soundboards for Ivanka’s father. “Trump is emotionally dependent on his son-in-law and his daughter...but they can’t do anything for him,” one member of Washington’s old guard told Ellison. “All they can do is make him feel better about what his life has come to.”

That means the two are useless to those who once thought they might serve as resources, a discovery which essentially makes their stock as powerbrokers worthless.

“If her main value in Washington is her access to her father and she is unable to sway him, then she is simply a 35-year-old former real-estate and retail executive in over her head,” Ellison writes.

6. They’ve lost "credibility with pro-environment business owners and Silicon Valley executives."

Ellison notes that on the heels of their numerous failures to impact Trump’s policies, Ivanka has backed away from her advocacy on issues such as climate change, and switched her attention to less politically thorny matters. Her willingness to abandon issues she once claimed to earnestly support has hurt her image with every sane person who opposes her historically unpopular father’s presidency, including eco-minded tech titans and C-suite occupants. Ellison writes:

When Ivanka threw herself into the analysis of the Paris climate accord and the implications of the U.S. pulling out, she talked supportively to Andrew Liveris, chairman and C.E.O. of the Dow Chemical Company, about a letter signed by C.E.O.s urging her father not to abrogate the deal. The ad ran, but Trump pulled out anyway. When Ivanka later tried to distance herself from her own efforts on climate change, the disavowal hurt her credibility with pro-environment business owners and Silicon Valley executives. To them, the episode showed not only her lack of pull with her father but also an unwillingness to stand on principle.

Ivanka now says she has shifted her focus solely to “job creation and women’s empowerment, including paid family leave, child-care tax credits, workforce development, and STEM education,” and insists she “should be judged only on the success or failure of these, not on the broader positions of her father’s administration,” according to Ellison.

7. They are loathed by D.C. society.

In July, reports emerged of Ivanka and Jared enjoying cocktails and canapés in the Hamptons alongside Chuck Schumer and George Soros. The episode seemed like yet more proof that the rich's first loyalty is to their class, but Ellison spoke to a few dissenting voices. In one instance, Javanka attended a party at the home of Atlantic Media head David Bradley. The “off-the-record dinner” was a moment to do away with soundbites and spin, but the pair apparently stayed on script.

“They were terrible,” Ellison was told by someone who was there, complaining that the duo, “kept to platitudes and pabulum, as they often do in public conversations.”

They also may have lost a few friends from their New York City society circles. Ellison spoke to a Manhattan friend who told her, “I haven’t had anything to do with them since they moved...What am I going to say? ‘What the f**k is wrong with you?’”

But a lot of the sneering and badmouthing is likely going on behind Kushner and Ivanka’s back, as one anecdote seems to show. The couple attended the Allen & Co. conference in Sun Valley this July, where “the chatter was ‘These people are horrible,’ and this and that, but of course, Jared and Ivanka show up and the air-kissing began.”

Their daughter’s school has also attempted to make nice, especially since a little kid who has no part in this whole thing is involved.

Some parents at the upscale and politically liberal Jewish Primary Day School, where Arabella is enrolled and where former senator Joe Lieberman and former White House chief of staff (and now Chicago mayor) Rahm Emanuel sent their children, are anguished over how to temper their disdain for Arabella’s grandfather while welcoming a blameless six-year-old into their ranks.

8. Their brand is the most important thing to them.

Ellison writes that the two have already planned their escape if Trump's presidency completely implodes.

“(i)ncreasingly you hear chatter in Washington that Jared and Ivanka won’t last, not because they are at risk of being pushed out, but because they will save themselves from a damaged White House. One well-connected strategist in New York told me that the two were eyeing a move at the end of the school year in 2018. A person close to the couple said they weren’t planning that far ahead. “When they decide it’s more important to protect their own and their children’s reputations than it is to defend their indefensible father’s, that’s a sign the end is near,” one influential Republican donor told me....People close to Kushner and Ivanka say that they have come to Washington for a limited time to work, not make inroads into the social scene, much less put down roots.”

"8 Reasons Jared and Ivanka Are as Useless and Detestable as Anyone in Trump's White House", Alternet, Kali Holloway
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:57 am

And the other shoe drops: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstruction of Justice

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Vice President Mike Pence could be implicated in certain crimes related to the circumstances surrounding the firing of former FBI Director James Comey, according to legal experts focused on the case.

One of those crimes may be obstruction of justice.

Professor Jed Shugerman, who teaches at Fordham Law School, took to Twitter over the weekend after news broke that Pence received a copy of the original draft letter outlining President Donald Trump’s reasons for firing Comey.

According to the New York Times‘ reporting, that letter was drafted by senior adviser Stephen Miller, contained thoughts from the president, ran multiple pages long and read like a “screed.” Its submission was argued against by White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II who criticized its tone.

McGahn won out and the original letter was not given to Comey. A copy was given to deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, who then wrote the letter outlining the official justification for Comey’s firing.

According to Shugerman, Pence’s knowledge of the original letter opens him up to charges on three felonies: (1) conspiracy to commit the obstruction of justice; (2) aiding and abetting the obstruction of justice; (3) and misprision of a felony.....
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

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Strelnikov wrote:And the other shoe drops: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstruction of Justice

Quote:

Vice President Mike Pence could be implicated in certain crimes related to the circumstances surrounding the firing of former FBI Director James Comey, according to legal experts focused on the case.

One of those crimes may be obstruction of justice.

Professor Jed Shugerman, who teaches at Fordham Law School, took to Twitter over the weekend after news broke that Pence received a copy of the original draft letter outlining President Donald Trump’s reasons for firing Comey.

According to the New York Times‘ reporting, that letter was drafted by senior adviser Stephen Miller, contained thoughts from the president, ran multiple pages long and read like a “screed.” Its submission was argued against by White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II who criticized its tone.

McGahn won out and the original letter was not given to Comey. A copy was given to deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, who then wrote the letter outlining the official justification for Comey’s firing.

According to Shugerman, Pence’s knowledge of the original letter opens him up to charges on three felonies: (1) conspiracy to commit the obstruction of justice; (2) aiding and abetting the obstruction of justice; (3) and misprision of a felony.....
I don't get Rosenstein. His reputation has been damaged, justifiably so from what I can see. What is behind his behavior?

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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:24 pm

Flip Flopped wrote:
Strelnikov wrote:And the other shoe drops: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstruction of Justice
I don't get Rosenstein. His reputation has been damaged, justifiably so from what I can see. What is behind his behavior?


Loyalty to a man who doesn't deserve loyalty.
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Re: The (new, straight-from-scratch) Trump thread

Post by Strelnikov » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:54 am

Posted here because he was an endless shill for Trump during the election:

Donald Glover is the first Black Director to win "Outstanding Director for a Comedy Series" on the Emmy's.

Milo_Y -2 points an hour ago*

Can we stop this 'first black' thing already?

Also, I don't care much for the message that the underlying institutions are deeply racist, making this news in the first place.

***

That above is how much of a jagoff Milo Yiannopoulus is on Reddit.

Reddit, which was already filth before r/The_Donald emerged.

The mind boggles.


Here he is at UCSD stumping "for Daddy" last June.
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