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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:57 pm

The supermarkets are well provided, there is as much toilet paper as you want, the home delivery service have some backlogs, but fiction perfect and you can order what you want, and the whole stores have opened there doors for private costumers, so you can buy tons and tons of toilet paper if you want! There are no shortages here, and have hardly been here.

https://twitter.com/ttanghe94/status/12 ... 16/photo/1

Schijten is shittin , so the Twitteraccont is named schijtpapier, shit paper, 20 cents a piece. :mrgreen:

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by suckadmin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:53 pm

Graaf Statler wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:57 pm
The supermarkets are well provided, there is as much toilet paper as you want, the home delivery service have some backlogs, but fiction perfect and you can order what you want, and the whole stores have opened there doors for private costumers, so you can buy tons and tons of toilet paper if you want! There are no shortages here, and have hardly been here.

https://twitter.com/ttanghe94/status/12 ... 16/photo/1

Schijten is shittin , so the Twitteraccont is named schijtpapier, shit paper, 20 cents a piece. :mrgreen:
:lol:

Tp, paper towels, kleenex, baby wipes and napkins have all been pretty scarce and sanitizers are virtually non existent in Los Angeles. Also many food items have been sold out.. stores have started rationing the number of certain items you can buy at a time amd the prices on some of these items are a bit jacked up but not as bad as what some people have been trying to get online. Home deliveries are also backed up so I've been having to run errands for elderly relatives. Hopefully things will calm down a bit in the next week or so but for now I feel well stocked.

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:42 pm

Holland is one of the biggest food exporters of the world, and the export as almost stopped.
there are horror traffic jams at the European borders now.
https://www.transport-online.nl/site/11 ... controles/

So the ware houses are overfilled, last Sunday when there was some panic, but they have let 1000 trucks drive to all supermarkets in the night to supply the supermarkets and Monday everything was there again.
And now they have opened the whole markets with just load you car as much as you want.
Today was again some panic, tomorrow the shops are filled up again, yes also with toilet paper, because again, we export that stuff!

They use the trucks of firms who doesn't have work now. And because it's a state controlled country, the state coordinate anything, and supermarkets work together because they are first line. The orinisation is perfect till now, later on the day there will be a press conference.

And we are so used to obey the state everyone does what the state tells us to do. Also firms, they become in this situations in a very friendly way state controlled. It is all coordinated by our state.

The only trouble what remains is that terrible virus, but we can concentrate us for 100% on that.
I simple can order what I want, stay inside, medicines, food, stuff, toilet paper ;) ,whatever I want and they just put it in front of the door!

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:12 am

Today the king will helt a speech. And I have to tell you more about our royal family and why this is a important moment for us.

In the second worldwar our Royal family, after many doubts, has fly to England and has from there played a important role in the coordinating of the resistance. In England was Radio Oranje and the queen her speeches where very important for the Dutch who had still a illegal radio. The German's had forbidden to have a radio, so little had one.

And in the past war period till now the Dutch royal family has always stayed close to the people and are in because of that extreem populair. So speeches of the king are important for us. Because they are only once a year with Christmas and in troubled times like this.

Our royal famely is even so populair, they have German roots, that the Germans have informal adopted them as there royal family too.
The German tabloids follow them ever closer than ours and the populair German newspapers too.

They try to live a as normal life as posible and are a kind of ambassadors, friendly people. And give in this way a tremendous stability in our society. Official they have no political influence, but the crown is always very close to the government in practice and is a important institute in this way.

So, his speech will be important for the Dutch.

*https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/c ... -visitors/

And for the rest not much news, things are going extreem smooth I have to say till now.

Some other news:

*This link is total uninteresting for non Dutch speakers, but headline make clear the government has taken the complete economy over. Even more then they already had done, Holland was a complete state controlled country already before.
We are not responsible for ourself, the state is responsible for us. And as you see take care of us in a extreem responsible way.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/video/99731601 ... nomie-over

A what you should call deep state are the trusty's of the government and the king. They advice them. And these are academics, professors, diplomates, experts, capties of industry and so on.
And that makes Holland to one of the most succesfull and best organised country's in the world what is as neutral as Switzerland. Both country's have very much similarity.

Alexander now has a beard just like his granddad what fits him in my opinion very well.
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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:50 pm

What to do with the kids now the schools are closed and people are advised to stay a home? :mrgreen:

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Great solution! :lol:

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Post by Graaf Statler » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:56 pm

Here you can read about the speech to the nation of our king, who is himself in self isolation.
(English)

*https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/w ... he-nation/

A few quotes:
We should be proud of the expertise at the RIVM, the health boards and all the other institutions and experts who are showing us the way on the basis of scientific research and experience,’ the king said in the speech, which was recorded on Friday afternoon.
No discussion about. The RIVM has taken form the first moment on the lead, compliments.
The king praised everyone else working in essential services to keep the country moving, the people working in logistics, in supermarkets, in cleaning, IT, education, childcare, public transport and the police.
Me too. the organisation is great, you get from everywhere help as a elder person. Also of the voluntaries from the local church, for everyone.
There are hardly shortages, only caused temporary by idiots who keep on hoarding goods.
Prime minister Rutte asked again to stop this *achterlijke,* insane behaving because there is plenty of everything, yes also of toiletpaper and paracetamol. And if people please want to keep distance because this morning when he went on his bicycle (Yes really, every day) to his work he saw the people didn't keep distance.

This is the real enemy and the only enemy for now:
Zoloft on WO wrote:I am in the demographic that has about a 20% mortality rate from this virus. I have self-isolated, promoted a telework policy for my crew, and am on a full telework schedule.
Zoloft is doing THE ONLY RIGHT THING for elder people. And also for young people because you can infect others.

Stay at home as much as you can, keep social distance, wash your hands good and hope for the best!

I simple want to lose no one, not Vig, not Tim, not Abd, not others, simple no one!
Keep healthy, all of you!

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:16 pm

Well, our king has held his speech, We must trust in the experts, says king in speech to the nation. more than 6 million people have watch it, and that must be a record.
The crow gives us trust an comfort us.
It is a extreme important symbol in Holland.
https://nos.nl/artikel/2327810-hoopvoll ... akker.html

The good news.
The army will do every thing to help us.
Our army is extreem professional, but mot a war army because we are no war country. They often assistend the American army in peace missions and work close together with them.

*https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/hulp-defen ... ~a0f33869/
America is our big brother, but like is every family we sometimes strong disagree. But America will always be our big brother, there is her no sentiment to embrace Russia or Chine, altough we have a very good relation with them too.

Now the bad news.
People get on hoarding. But that is not a bad thing if they do it in a wise way.
Because if the big boom comes, what comes, you must have a stock. But a wise stock and not tons of toilet paper.
Now it is only a matter of logistics, now it is still calm and it wil drop in the coming weeks. There is plenty of everything!

*https://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavirus/n ... ~a929908e/\\

Other bad news. You have everywhere irresponsible people and here also.

*A ilegal party in a cafe in Belgium:

https://www.ad.nl/dossier-coronavirus/p ... ~a16410ed/

They should give them all a fine of 15.000 Euro and in 6 mouths in prison! Not 4000 euro!

* Going out and no social distance!

https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/nederlande ... ~a5e3b8f4/


Idiots! You must stay home, it is no spring holiday now many firms a re closed and the schools too!
Yes, it is lovely, lovely spring weather, but this as worse as a war! Only bombs make noise, and this virus not!

It is a it is an assassin.

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:00 pm

Minister Graupenhaus wrote:"Dit is beschamend en helemaal verkeerd. Laat ik daar duidelijk over zijn."
About what?

About this:

https://eenvandaag.avrotros.nl/item/min ... uit-en-ho/

With whole family's to the shops today and yesterday, to the woods, acting like it is spring holiday because it was the first nice and sunny weekend, illegal party's, no social distance and so on!
Not listening to the advises of the gouvermant in short.

Grapperhaus is angry and I am sure messenger will follow, he is the minster of justice. But, but is that not to late?
Because we are close in schema with the disaster scenario Italy...... only 14 days behind.....

You graaf fears for a disaster here, special because we have only the half of the IC beds of Lombardy, Italy and that graaf stays already more than three weeks inside....

And the European country's are still rather good prepared, but what if this virus lands in the refuse camps? In war zones in the middle east?

What a nightmare, what a drama!

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:03 am

For everyone and anyone in the world who is thinking I am young, it is only the flu, so what can happen to me?

This!!!!

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-DQIesDvCZ/

A Dutch entertainer, 39 years old, fighting for his life!

Lisen to the advices of the experts, and take them serious, also when you are young! There are also much younger people fighting for there live in the hospitals now!
And he tells here he is now much better than he was, he is now a week in the hospital.


It is a very heavy fight, also psychical and stay inside! That is what his message to the world! Also when you are young, otherwise you can end up the same!

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Re: Dutch approach to fight COVID-19

Post by Graaf Statler » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:00 pm

This morning there was a briefing of Jaap van Dissel, directeur van het Centrum voor Infectieziektenbestrijding (CIB) to the leaders of the political party's and he has given a extreem good and reading about the corona epidemic.
It is a pity it is only in Dutch, because he gave much information about what universities are doing, the virus itself, very interesting.

The main conclusion is the messages do there work. There is always a part of a population who refuse to lishen to the messages but in general people the Ditch people are doing what is asked from them but not always.
And that is a pity. Mayors have now extra authorisations, but a complete lock down is still possible.

Dutch corona death toll rises by 80, but the curve may be flattening.

Europe is complete forgotten. ieder voor zich en god voor ons allen, each for himself and god for all of us.
We see the Premier Rutte, the king, the leaders of the political party's who operate all, the king, but Europe......
Now.

The EU is and was always very impopulair by the main stream of the Europeans and is a extreem powerless institute, the national parliaments and the local leaders are much more important and powerful.
The corona crisis has strengthens the anti-Europe sentiment enormous, and it should'd surplice me this would be the end of the EU in this form.

The European people want a EU as a free trade area, as a institute what what regulates matters what is better to do with other country's in cooperation, but in no way a United States of Europe!
They don't want a European president, a European Army, even not a European flag what is extreem unpopular here, No.

They want nation states. They don't accept any dilution of there national identity. And special now.
The want to see Rutte, te king, there leaders, but no European leaders in this crisis.

Here he is visting Tilburg, the GDD, The health service.



European people now want there own leaders, there own experts, and hear there own language in this time of crisis.
But this nationalism was already a tendens what is now accelerated by the catalyst the corona crisis.

75% of the Dutch population support our politicians and there corona approach now. We make a journey back in the time of 30, 40, or even 50 years in a few weeks now. Even the Belgium borders closed now!

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