Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Fram 2

[CrowsNest]

No, no and no. You've really got this wrong.

But never mind.

Yeah, sure.

I've got it wrong, you just can't/won't explain how.

You and Kumioko are gonna get really well.

[CrowsNest]

Spinners keep spinning... Crow needs to be able to put the transparent political agenda and the sundry hate-obsessions aside if he's ever gonna be a first rate analyst.

Basically he's an entertaining propagandist at this point -- Howard W. Campbell, Jr. with a Wikipedia and Wikipediocracy obsession.

What's entertaining is you seem to have got the compete wrong end of the stick, but ran with it anyway, because of your own transparent agenda.

You saw the mention of journalist and assumed I must be talking about the Wikipediocracy conspiracy theory, when in fact I am talking about what a real researcher would see if they went looking for evidence that RfA result was down to Drmies. Two completely different things.

You're talking about my so called hate obsessions because you saw me talking about Drmies, saw me say he was evil, and pounced all over it, without even realizing that someone who really hates Denies would be trying to argue what Anyone is arguing, rather than argue it is not supported by the evidence.

You two can do this if you want, become just a couple of Kumioko fan boys, but you know the only thing you're doing is damaging this forum, removing someone who has real talent and insight, and replacing him with someone who eats crayons.

When you've both stopped sucking each other's dicks, I'll be waiting for your replies to what I actually said, and some explanation of how it is wrong. To remind you.....

* Remove the Drmies based opposition, and the RfA is at 51%.

* The trend lines suggest more factors than just a swing after 14:44, 26 September 2019 (UTC), and indeed there was no significant change in the rate of opposition, which was steadily claiming before and after Drmies' oppose

If this sort of analysis is not what you came here to do, if you would much prefer sticking crayons up your noses, then sure, Kumioko is your guy.

If you want me, I'm over there, giving his head a much deserved stomping.

[Anyone]

For now, I think it suffices to point out that using the thoughts of a SignPost gimp to confirm anything seems unwise, and if a real journalist had got into this claim, they would have surely pointed out that by your own analysis, without the influence of Drmies, Fram would have been on 51%, and according to my analysis, something more complex was afoot than the idea that Drmies stepped in and Fram got burned.

No, no and no. You've really got this wrong.

But never mind.

Spinners keep spinning... Crow needs to be able to put the transparent political agenda and the sundry hate-obsessions aside if he's ever gonna be a first rate analyst.

Basically he's an entertaining propagandist at this point -- Howard W. Campbell, Jr. with a Wikipedia and Wikipediocracy obsession.

RfB

Yes, these comments by CrowsNest are a tad embarrassing. This is the first RFA I've followed -- I tracked it because I figured it would be the most important in Wikipedia's history.

But CN's comments [and indeed his understanding of events as they unfolded] are sub-par. Specifically, his abilities in terms of research, data assimilation and data analysis are lacking. I employ 67 staff across 3 companies, but I wouldn't employ CrowsNest.

This of course isn't an insult. Mr CN might have wonderful talents as a musician, an artist or a mechanic. Perhaps he's a gifted carpenter or athlete.

Finally, I openly admit I know little about Wikipedia. I only made about 900 edits.

This is roughly 6 times more than CN, but it's still tiny. So inevitably I make mistakes. But hey -- so what. I'll always accept my fuck ups and just laugh them off.

No need to take this shit seriously.

PS. The Monaco Yacht Show ended a couple of days ago. Here's my sexy write-up:

http://www.pinnaclemarine.co.nz/benetti ... w-2019.php

[CrowsNest]

This would have been the part where you explain what I'm supposed to have done that would make me embarrassed because my work was sub-par. Among my many talents is Wikipedia analysis. I take it seriously because in my long experience, people who don't, are the ones who suffer embarrassment.

On a point of fact, the (succesful) RfA of someone (Floquenbeam) who openly and unapologetically defied what was previously a Red Line Rule that underpins the very statutory basis of Wikipedia's Sectii 230 immunity might be a little more significant than Asshole Administrator Fails To Overturn Desysop By Appealing To A Judicial Technicality. But YMMV and all that.

I am not treating this as an attack, anymore. Not after the details above that would persuade anyone that there never was and likely never will be anything behind it other than some as yet unstated personal animus.

I know what it might be, but if you don't want to say, that's your right I guess. I will respect the fact we have been friends/colleagues/fellow travellers in the past by not actually speculating on what might be causing you to at least try to disrespect me in the way have done.

On another point of fact, you wouldn't employ me because I don't work for people in that sense. When I choose to work, it is as a consultant, and it is therefore usually a case of the client persuading me that they have something for me to do that will be engaging and rewarding, as well as being as lucrative as I hope you know consultancy always is. Particular set of skills, and all that.

[Graaf Statler]

Is he? Any proof?

Yes, but I can't find the link. In the first version of his RFA, he introduced himself as a Dutch-speaking Belgian.

Oh, and he seems to like the Smurfs [a Belgian comic franchise].

I asked for a proof, not for what he claimed. Because I don't believe not even a single word of he is from Belgium, because he is writing Dutch as noticed both by me and Guido. So he is a troll and an lier. And indeed a stupid Smurf.

[Anyone]

Is he? Any proof?

Yes, but I can't find the link. In the first version of his RFA, he introduced himself as a Dutch-speaking Belgian.

Oh, and he seems to like the Smurfs [a Belgian comic franchise].

I asked for a proof, not for what he claimed. Because I don't believe not even a single word of he is from Belgium, because he is writing Dutch as noticed both by me and Guido. So he is a troll and an lier. And indeed a stupid Smurf.

Oh Jesus Christ. Tim has already posted the link.

[Carrite]

Is he? Any proof?

Yes, but I can't find the link. In the first version of his RFA, he introduced himself as a Dutch-speaking Belgian.

Oh, and he seems to like the Smurfs [a Belgian comic franchise].

I asked for a proof, not for what he claimed. Because I don't believe not even a single word of he is from Belgium, because he is writing Dutch as noticed both by me and Guido. So he is a troll and an lier. And indeed a stupid Smurf.

Oh Jesus Christ. Tim has already posted the link.

SHOW US THE BIRTH CIRTEEFICUT!!!

[Graaf Statler]

O sorry of Fram of course!

[Anyone]

Is he? Any proof?

I asked for a proof, not for what he claimed. Because I don't believe not even a single word of he is from Belgium, because he is writing Dutch as noticed both by me and Guido. So he is a troll and an lier. And indeed a stupid Smurf.

SHOW US THE BIRTH CIRTEEFICUT!!!

Outstanding, Mr Davenport. It took me a second or two to figure it out, but that is VERY good!

Definitely 10 out of 10.

[Kumioko]

It's actually funny that for the longest time I thought Fram stood for French American and eventually someone mentioned he was Dutch and possibly a lawyer, which makes sense given his ability to argue and manipulate.