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Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by Ognistysztorm » Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:40 am

I have what seems to me a credible report that you have been recommending to people that they use WikiExperts. Is this true?

The report I have is that you contacted someone through Whatsapp to recommend WikiExperts, who then charged someone $15,000 for an article in Wikipedia. I am asking you because if so, then you definitely should not be an admin in English Wikipedia. If it is a lie, then fine. But please tell me the truth. Jimbo Wales (talk) 22:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... kiExperts?

That name is familiar because he gotten into Donna Strickland incident few years ago.

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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by badmachine » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:55 am

omg theres a proposed case at aarbcom

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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by Bbb23sucks » Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:42 am

badmachine wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:55 am
omg theres a proposed case at aarbcom
Could this and the Holocaust scandal actually kill Wikipedia? Who knows. But this is eerily similar to the Miraheze drama (which I will cover soon I promise).
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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by boredbird » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:33 am

badmachine wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:55 am
omg theres a proposed case at aarbcom
Funny how everyone is complaining that Jimbo is untouchable but the whole case boils down to "BradV is former arbitrator how dare you ask such a thing!" How about answer the question? It's probably true.

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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by Ognistysztorm » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:56 pm

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:42 am
badmachine wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:55 am
omg theres a proposed case at aarbcom
Could this and the Holocaust scandal actually kill Wikipedia? Who knows. But this is eerily similar to the Miraheze drama (which I will cover soon I promise).
According to a journalist who lurk on here, there is a second Holocaust scandal.

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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by Bbb23sucks » Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:37 am

Ognistysztorm wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:56 pm
Bbb23sucks wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:42 am
badmachine wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:55 am
omg theres a proposed case at aarbcom
Could this and the Holocaust scandal actually kill Wikipedia? Who knows. But this is eerily similar to the Miraheze drama (which I will cover soon I promise).
According to a journalist who lurk on here, there is a second Holocaust scandal.
WHAT???
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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by Ognistysztorm » Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:08 am

Bbb23sucks wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:37 am
Ognistysztorm wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:56 pm
Bbb23sucks wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:42 am


Could this and the Holocaust scandal actually kill Wikipedia? Who knows. But this is eerily similar to the Miraheze drama (which I will cover soon I promise).
According to a journalist who lurk on here, there is a second Holocaust scandal.
WHAT???
On top of all, she had uncovered hard evidence that one of the parties involved in the second Holocaust scandal is likely a chomo. The demise of Wikipedia is within realistic reach.

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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by Bbb23sucks » Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:10 am

Ognistysztorm wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 2:08 am
Bbb23sucks wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:37 am
Ognistysztorm wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:56 pm


According to a journalist who lurk on here, there is a second Holocaust scandal.
WHAT???
On top of all, she had uncovered hard evidence that one of the parties involved in the second Holocaust scandal is likely a chomo. The demise of Wikipedia is within realistic reach.
WHO??? WHAT??????? WHY???? Please, please, PLEASE tell us more.
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Re: Jimbo asks Bradv if he encouraged paid editing

Post by wexter » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:07 am

According to a journalist who lurk on here, there is a second Holocaust scandal.
It looks like a major scandal to me - to be hitting the media perhaps
Statement by Jimbo Wales
I will post a full statement here tomorrow morning - I just wanted to pop a note here now to make sure people know I am aware of this and not ignoring it.

In the meantime, let me be clear: I regret and have apologised for the tone of my question to BradV. "If you believe an editor has an undisclosed COI and is editing in violation of this guideline, raise the issue in a civil manner on the editor's talk page" says WP:COICOIN. I was upset by the large number in question and wasn't nearly as civil as I should have been - but the right thing to do is ask people, per policy.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:15, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Yes, it is similar because the rules are totally arbitrary - there is no real process or internal controls it is a lunatic free for all toxic mosh pit - the Jimbo issue shows that the fruit of the tree is poisoned. (Fruit = Wikipedia, Poison started with Jimbo's Porn Site Bomis)

--The issue is whether or not the founder can do whatever he wants to do regardless of process
--In the Holocaust scandal - a group of editors can do whatever they want to do using the faux process
--He who prevails on setting reality wields the biggest stick! (in either case)

I think Wikipedia is going to be pounded from here on in.. In a shark attack you lose a leg or get killed; in a piranha attack you get nipped away relentlessly. Wikipedia is under piranha attack.

(PS the value of Chat GPT is not in content -- it can organize your content if you present it with your overview - as far as parroting the work of ohters there are indicators that just as Wikipedia harvested Britannica Chat GPT will start out by harvesting Wikipedia)
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