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Wikipedia Sucks! - View topic - Philip Cross
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There's been a summary posted on the ArbCom noticeboard of a whole host of mostly innocuous edits. . This led me to second-guess a bit, so I had a look at some of the more central complaints.

Mr. Cross is responsible for 34.8% of the characters on the Socialist Worker's Party . NHSavage is #2 with 16.7%

on George Galloway: 60.4%

Piers Robinson. This article has been cut from 8.2K to 2.2K since Philip Cross' last add, but he still remains the #2 editor (31%) behind Philafrenzy (52%):

Earlier, Piers, or someone impersonating him, had come in and tried to delete some one-sided text. NeilN soft-blocked the account on the grounds that it was named for a famous person: . A few days later Drmies came and cut out almost all of the text the account had objected to.

On the Tim Hayward entry, there was an exceptionally long editwar (both sides at >8RR, I believe), which NeilN ended by summarily blocking the person trying to add a reference to Jonathan Cook's article, "The Authoritarians who Silence Syria Questions" . Philip Cross? Despite making no BLP / NPOV claim, just deleting the article over and over and over, no action was taken by NeilN, (because Counterpunch is not a symmemological / canonical source for any claims, not even the most straightforward ones, like the name of the "working group" Hayward & Robinson are part of, I guess.) :roll:

Even old Roland Dumas has been telling anyone who will listen that regime change has *long* been on the British agenda. But that sort of basic knowledge doesn't belong in English Wikipedia. There will be no Counterpunch, no Meyssan articles from VoltaireNet () noting that Assad had returned his légion d'honneur (), that Germany had roundly stated the recent attacks were illegal, that the Russians were effective at jamming French technology, that... no, no, no. McWiki doesn't serve spicy dal. Give me seconds of that soft-serve Puffington Host, please. Slurp...

Cross likewise dismissed the Cook article from Piers Robinson's entry: .


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I don't know what funnier, the fact that KingsIndian is posting stuff to Wikipediocracy that was noted here ages ago, or that nobody there seems to give a shit.

A guy who doesn't get the basics of NPOV, really doesn't need to be anywhere near a thread on this fool.


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I had to check to see if the Galloway article had been purged after mis-hearing that Cross was only responsible for only 20% of the article, when in fact he's still responsible for nearly 60% of the content.

I think the BBC journalists got confused as to the usefulness of studying the number of edits (21%) rather than the percentage of authorship (60% and dwindling slowly)...

Meanwhile pinch hitter Snooganssnoogans is at the plate and appears to . An article from June 2016 (Politico) says that George Galloway agrees with Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein and thought that Clinton would do longer lasting damage than Trump. Nowhere is Galloway's suggestion that Bernie run independently mentioned. Of course this was on the table in June when there was an open offer from Stein ...

Snoog knows all that context, we talked about it during the election, but prefers to snip things out of context into history...


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The BBC have now written it all up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44495696

As I predicted, once it got this far, which was inevitable after a certain point, their strategy was going to backfire. That piece, in a highly trusted source, makes the uninitiated reader absolutely think Jimmy and the WMF have something to hide and are not properly investigating Cross, and certainly that Cross is either a nutter or a loser or is absolutely breaking the rules but people don't care because his targets are people like George.

Seriously, what kind of fool says no comment to reporters phoning up from the BBC? Someone who is guilty, that's who. If it were me, if this were all just one big mistake or witchunt, I'd have emailed the BBC copious amounts of evidence that proves my innocence against the charge of bias and gives an absolutely rock solid explanation about who I am, why I have the interests I do, and what my relationship is with Kamm etc.

But no. This idiot treats the BBC the same way he does RT and George. Which to us Brits, rings alarms bells. Great big massive alarm bells.

Oh, and for the record, we now have Cross caught bang to rights in an attempt to use Wikipedia for misdirection, right at the very time when misdirection benefited him and hindered those looking to hold him to account in a court of law. What kind of person posts "Andrew Philip Cross (born 1963)" on their profile page (and IIRC stated this was his real name somewhere else), which the BBC are now saying "is not the name he normally goes by outside of Wikipedia." Obviously, a person to whom truth and honesty are fluid concepts.

Cross should reflect on what it probably means for him personally, that the WMF simply sent out a canned statement to the BBC, and one that entirely misrepresented their actual powers and responsibilities too. Which was kind of stupid in of itself. Is he a government agent or a media stooge? The BBC says these claims are unproven. But wouldn't it have been nice for the WMF to say they agree? It is almost as if they feel they cannot commit such a thing to print.


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