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The European election are so complete uninterested and boring because the Europarlement has so little direct influence that I really doubt if there is anyone who will take the trouble to spread fake news about that elections. Hast du einen Opa, so schick ihn nach Europa. Do you have a granddad, send him off to Brussels .
It's a retired house for retired politicians who represent there national parlement, direct democratic level zero. In Holland about 35% of the voters vote and the rest stay comfortable at home. They just do what there national parliaments in the euro parlement want them to do, and that is it.
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And thank you for this article, madam gender.
That article 11 and 13 "protest" is of course nur für die bühne as the Germans say, because nothing is gonna change. And also not after the European elections to, because in the case the Pirate Party has to get more than 50% of the seats. Also in the national parliaments by te way.
In our system is what is decided fixed, so to re-open the proces you must get more than 50% of the seats, and that doesn't look to me very realistic. Because now they have one represent in the EP, and I expect after the European elections zero seats for the Pirate Party are left. It is flash hope and it is misleading.
The only thing that protesters will get there in Brussels is cold feet and wet clothes because it is very cold and rainy there. And properly no one has even seen them because you don't see much people in the streets with this weather and half of the population has the flue.
Jimmy, why are you repeating over and over this same, false, misleading tweeds and messages. You are the mister anti- fake news himself of this world, at least that is what you claim, and what are you doing yourself all the time? Spreading fake news! Because this is fake news Jimmy, it is over, the European parlement has spoken and in a few years it is all implanted in the national laws, so live with it!
https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/ ... 6810383360
That article 11 and 13 "protest" is of course nur für die bühne as the Germans say, because nothing is gonna change. And also not after the European elections to, because in the case the Pirate Party has to get more than 50% of the seats. Also in the national parliaments by te way.
In our system is what is decided fixed, so to re-open the proces you must get more than 50% of the seats, and that doesn't look to me very realistic. Because now they have one represent in the EP, and I expect after the European elections zero seats for the Pirate Party are left. It is flash hope and it is misleading.
The only thing that protesters will get there in Brussels is cold feet and wet clothes because it is very cold and rainy there. And properly no one has even seen them because you don't see much people in the streets with this weather and half of the population has the flue.
Jimmy, why are you repeating over and over this same, false, misleading tweeds and messages. You are the mister anti- fake news himself of this world, at least that is what you claim, and what are you doing yourself all the time? Spreading fake news! Because this is fake news Jimmy, it is over, the European parlement has spoken and in a few years it is all implanted in the national laws, so live with it!
https://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/ ... 6810383360
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Re: European elections?
I think this is a interesting newspaper article about the European elections where it is about.
Article translated by Google
Article in Dutch.
As you can read these elections are about the direction and the future of Europe, not about details like copyright, article 11 and 13, but about other items. They are about the migration crisis, the future of the euro, the future of the EU in general, the strong upcoming nationalistic forces. And the "Green agenda" will be very important. How is gonna pay for all that nice ecologic stuff, that is a big item at the moment.
It is rediciles even to think article 11 and 13 or copyright in general will be a item in this elections, it such a tremendous nonsens.
The European parlement will always be a boring granddad and grandma parlement, because powerful nations as France and Germany simple don't want a powerful European Parlement. Het is een feestcommissie op zoek naar een feest, not my words but the words of our Prime Minister Mark Rutte. A party committee searching for a party.There not will be no hard campagnes and most people trow there voting invitation strait in the old paper. It is nothing, it will be hardly in the news, most people even doesn't know the names of most of the candidates.
Article translated by Google
Article in Dutch.
As you can read these elections are about the direction and the future of Europe, not about details like copyright, article 11 and 13, but about other items. They are about the migration crisis, the future of the euro, the future of the EU in general, the strong upcoming nationalistic forces. And the "Green agenda" will be very important. How is gonna pay for all that nice ecologic stuff, that is a big item at the moment.
It is rediciles even to think article 11 and 13 or copyright in general will be a item in this elections, it such a tremendous nonsens.
The European parlement will always be a boring granddad and grandma parlement, because powerful nations as France and Germany simple don't want a powerful European Parlement. Het is een feestcommissie op zoek naar een feest, not my words but the words of our Prime Minister Mark Rutte. A party committee searching for a party.There not will be no hard campagnes and most people trow there voting invitation strait in the old paper. It is nothing, it will be hardly in the news, most people even doesn't know the names of most of the candidates.
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Re: European elections?
And retweeting this lady is also very misleading, Jimmy. The Piratenpartei has no seats in the German state parliament, one in the Europalement, and after this new elections zero. Retweeting tweets of a MPE in her last days is pure spreading fake news and misleading. And the German government has to implant these articles, that is a European order, not something to discussion anymore in the German parlement so a petition is complete nonsens and a waisting off time. The discussions about article 11 and 13 has finished and the decision is taken and nothing will change that anymore. That is how Europe politics works, European regulation if it is there overrules always national regulation. De teerling is geworpen, the baby is born. Look how nice it is sleeping in it's cradle, you can't push a new born baby back.
To change things you need political support, Jimmy. And to get political support people have to vote for you and both in the national and European elections is copyright not a item. And even if the Pirate Party gets one seat it will change nothing. One seat doesn't form a mouvment. In this hot copyright summer in the European parlement the only thing what was hot was the soup in the canteen.
You are the lightening example of using the social media for spreading fake news, Jimmy. Romaine is not the new wiki Che Guevara but just a complete idiot and a huge troll. A unemployed computer freak. There was no hot free source summer, there is no free source mouvement in Europe, there was no huge demonstration in Brussels, there where only a few idiots there who where trying to get a cystitis.
There is hardly any campaign for the European elections, the lady is probably the last MPE of the pirate party ever. It is all fake news Jimmy. Close your reality gap, Jimmy.
A European Parlement decisions is one big package deal what takes years. To change it the complete deal has to reversed and that is not gonna happen, it is as simple as that and as said, a European decision if it is there overrules national parliaments. There are now negotiations between the EU and the country's how to implant this new regulations, but the democratic proces is finished.
To change things you need political support, Jimmy. And to get political support people have to vote for you and both in the national and European elections is copyright not a item. And even if the Pirate Party gets one seat it will change nothing. One seat doesn't form a mouvment. In this hot copyright summer in the European parlement the only thing what was hot was the soup in the canteen.
You are the lightening example of using the social media for spreading fake news, Jimmy. Romaine is not the new wiki Che Guevara but just a complete idiot and a huge troll. A unemployed computer freak. There was no hot free source summer, there is no free source mouvement in Europe, there was no huge demonstration in Brussels, there where only a few idiots there who where trying to get a cystitis.
There is hardly any campaign for the European elections, the lady is probably the last MPE of the pirate party ever. It is all fake news Jimmy. Close your reality gap, Jimmy.
A European Parlement decisions is one big package deal what takes years. To change it the complete deal has to reversed and that is not gonna happen, it is as simple as that and as said, a European decision if it is there overrules national parliaments. There are now negotiations between the EU and the country's how to implant this new regulations, but the democratic proces is finished.
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Re: European elections?
And mark my words, for sure Mark Rutte and other high Dutch politicians gets high positions after this elections. Why? Because Holland is such a big, importend country?
No.
Because Holland is and was always a economic province of Germany, long before the euro and the EU. The harbour of Rotterdam, one of the biggest in this wold is in fact a German harbour. Most of our industry works for the German industry, in a economic way it is one country. Germany is the key player in this elections and never forget this joke during the euro crisis.
Merkel to Mark Rutte, Mark listen, we create a new currency and to honour Holland and you we name it after you.
Jimmy is tweeting and retweeting Utter Fucking Bullshit and fake news. Nothing will change after this election, the Great never existing Battle is over!
No.
Because Holland is and was always a economic province of Germany, long before the euro and the EU. The harbour of Rotterdam, one of the biggest in this wold is in fact a German harbour. Most of our industry works for the German industry, in a economic way it is one country. Germany is the key player in this elections and never forget this joke during the euro crisis.
Merkel to Mark Rutte, Mark listen, we create a new currency and to honour Holland and you we name it after you.
Jimmy is tweeting and retweeting Utter Fucking Bullshit and fake news. Nothing will change after this election, the Great never existing Battle is over!
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Re: European elections?
Reading this over the article, this is the bloody limed.
The Brussels Advocating Group? Gerlach? Anna, Dimi and Romaine=>Wikimedia, Jimmy? Tricked by complete lies and false information? Call your MEP, although copyright and licences is a matter of the national parliaments? Look, there is still a battle going on in the German Parlement, altough the whole case is settled? There was a hot summer in the European parlement? Yes there was, about the Brexit, but not about copyright!
What kind of complete bullshit are you telling us with your fake news Jimmy. And who are you Jimmy Wales to tell us what the people in Europe want or not? Who do you think you are? If all that Europeans where so enthusiastic about your bullshit, and it really was what the people wanted, why for the hell don't they not vote all for The Pirate Party, Jimmy?
Because it is here a democracy, if we all vote Wilders and Le Pen it is finito EU. If we all vote the Pirate Party you get what what you want. And if not you don't get what you want, whether you are jeering as a little child or not there in Davos.
It is as simple as that, Jimmy. You simple don't have any power over democratic processes, not any, Jimmy. It is Utter Fucking Bullshit you are predicting.
Jimmy Wales wrote:If the people are being duped and tricked by complete lies and false information, we end up with results that don’t really represent what the people want.
The Brussels Advocating Group? Gerlach? Anna, Dimi and Romaine=>Wikimedia, Jimmy? Tricked by complete lies and false information? Call your MEP, although copyright and licences is a matter of the national parliaments? Look, there is still a battle going on in the German Parlement, altough the whole case is settled? There was a hot summer in the European parlement? Yes there was, about the Brexit, but not about copyright!
What kind of complete bullshit are you telling us with your fake news Jimmy. And who are you Jimmy Wales to tell us what the people in Europe want or not? Who do you think you are? If all that Europeans where so enthusiastic about your bullshit, and it really was what the people wanted, why for the hell don't they not vote all for The Pirate Party, Jimmy?
Because it is here a democracy, if we all vote Wilders and Le Pen it is finito EU. If we all vote the Pirate Party you get what what you want. And if not you don't get what you want, whether you are jeering as a little child or not there in Davos.
It is as simple as that, Jimmy. You simple don't have any power over democratic processes, not any, Jimmy. It is Utter Fucking Bullshit you are predicting.