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Oh, and note now BullRangifer has outlined why it would be OK for JzG to block people on the basis of this essay (it is currently widely believed even by those who support it, that by committing it to paper, JzG has disqualified himself from ever being able to block anyone in the US politics topic area).

BullRangifer believes JzG can (and should) use his Admin powers in this fashion, because he would not be blocking them for their political opinions, but because they are being disruptive. Because, and he sees this as a FACT, having the wrong political opinion guarantees you will disrupt Wikipedia. He said it, plain as day ("it's a fact that it affects their editing").

The whole point of this horrible essay, as he says, is to enshrine the sheer arrogance it takes to declare everyone who doesn't accept the truthiness of it, as an ENEMY OF WIKIPEDIA. Naturally, he doesn't see the irony at all. Not even a little bit. Because he's a deranged little fuck, for whom "fact" has become indivisible from the (right) "opinion".

Let me give you a practical example. Say an editor puts in their user page that they believe the southern border wall is a good idea. They don't say why, they merely state it is their opinion. But they do make edits to related articles. Under this essay, that editor needs to be blocked, and can be blocked by JzG, without any examination of their edits at all. The mere fact that they are editing, is a problem, according to this essay, or at least BullRangifer's interpretation of it, which is most assuredly how JzG intends it to be interpreted in the fullness of time.

If this fucked up shit isn't a matter for ArbCom, if the community does not want them to step in and apply corrective action in the form of stern reminders of what policy says and why, then frankly ArbCom has no role at all. And if you know anything about JzG and the Untouchables like him who have always been at the core of Wikipedia, you know he has always been of the opinion that ArbCom should not exist, or at least it should not exist to curtail his powers. As he has repeatedly said, where is the questionable Administrative conduct in what he has done?

Wikipedia is biased as fuck. At the core, institutional level.

Anyone who disagrees with this essay who is still editing Wikipedia in the belief it is a neutral reference work, is a fool. Because they are coming for you. You will be given the special mark, you will be herded into the special transport, your influence on their world will be erased. Systematically, all above board according to the new policies this essay laid the groundwork for, policies that the Founders of Wikipedia could never have even imagined (seriously, do you see Jimmy Wales supporting this garbage? he knows how fucked up it is, how potentially inflammatory it is). Again, they do not see the irony. Much like hard-core Trump supporters do not see the irony in much of what they say or do.

Don't say I didn't warn you, you stupid fucks.

Oh, and hey, good folks of Wikipediocracy, how about you do your job and EXPOSE some of this shit? If you really want people to believe you're not just a Wikipedia clone, happy to host only Wikipedian views of what is logical and defensible. It won't matter how hard you suck his dick, JzG is never going to bestow legitimacy on your shitty website. The mere act of posting on there will be added to the list of what makes a person incompetent to edit, soon enough. And I so want to see the look on the face of Tim "I stood up to the evil Jimmy Wales, aren't I brave?" Davenport when it happens.

Useless fucking pseudo-critics. Into the sea with you.


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Obsidi, who proposed the Arbcom case against JzG, has now been indefinitely banned as "NOTHERE" for Mjolnirpants abusing his rollback tool and misrepresenting a source to include an unsourced BLP violation calling Milo Yiannopoulos "inspired by neo-nazis and white nationalists" because he wrote that was published in Breitbart. Milo, you may recall, was one of the few remotely reliable sources on Gamergate. He is also but that is no excuse for breaking site rules and abusing tools.


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They're gonna find any way they can to ban people who try to hold obvious partisans like MjolnirPants to account. He's gone from insisting "There are seven sources used in the article to establish Milo's munchkin cred." on 14 October, to conceding there's not an overwhelming consensus for his edit on 24 October, in particular there is no consensus for it at BLP/N (which means it cannot be included), and there was a hell of a lot of whining and incivility from point A to point B. By banning people like Obsidi, people like MjolnirPants are spared this kind of humiliation, and Wikipedia remains steadfastly a tool of the Democrats, presenting their reality as everyone's reality. Obsidi is better off being banned, he is wasting his time trying to combat this problem from inside Wikipedia. The place is rigged, to the max.


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is as good a point of entry as any to Calton's most recent appearance on a drama board.


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A reliable source has claimed Linda Sarsour co-opted the Women's March for reasons of anti-Semitism.

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-a ... lting-down

Here are the given reasons why Wikipedia supposedly can't include this allegation....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lind ... blet_piece

-it is negative information about a living person, which is poorly sourced because....
--the source is biased (pro-Israel)
--the source is a magazine
--the allegations are not backed by quotes or named sources
--the authors are not credible because they are a podcast host and Penthouse columnist
-it would be undue weight because nobody else is discussing it

This is all well and good, and maybe it even has grounding in policy (seems debatable at least for some of the points), I'm just posting it here to illustrate what the Wikipedians do to protect people with the right causes, because it will take you five seconds to find the same Wikipedians doing the exact opposite for people with the wrong opinions.

For certain figures on the right, certainly anyone who has ever remotely said a good thing about Trump, Wikipedians will jump on any vaguely credible source, no matter what it is, where they got their information, or who else thinks it is important, and stuff it immediately into Wikipedia.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =882318874

Wikipedia Administrator Drmies at 01:53, 8 February......

This is a nothing burger, just a bunch of media reports about...well, about media reports. That has news value, of course, but no encyclopedic value. Including it violates our most sacred policy, WP:BLP

Wikipedia Administrator Drmies at 02:13, 8 February......

There is clear consensus among Wikipedia editors that this information has encyclopedia value, and including it does not violate WP:BLP

What an amazing turnaround. In other, completely unrelated news, Drmies can be seen regularly making partisan comments that would explain why he could have possibly been so out of whack even with the liberal leaning Wikipedia community, in his efforts to protect a Democract.

If he was just an editor, that would still be stupid, but couldn't damage Wikipedia, since ignoring obviously biased and obviously stupid editors is part of the editorial process. But he is not. He is an Administrator, and as seen here, that means he can be directly involved in making sure his bias becomes Wikipedia's content reality, through threats, blocks and lockdowns of the article.

What is remarkable, what underpins the bedrock of how Wikipedia locks in political bias, is how he is so blatant about not caring what new users thought, but was most careful not to hold to an unustainable position in the eyes of the in-crowd, even though both were saying the exactly the same things about the merits of the content and the policy argument.

It is worth noting that for all his arrogant claims he alone was enforcing BLP and his opponents should "listen more carefully when an admin invokes the BLP", it should be rather obvious to anyone not trying to abuse Wikipedia, that the policy does not exist to shield politicians from already unfolding media scandals that they have directly addressed in the media, it exists to stop Wikipedia unduly amplifying potentially damaging information about low profile individuals. Similarly, the policy that Wikipedia is not a newspaper does not exist to shield politicians from negative media coverage that directly impacts their careers and public image, it exists to ensure Wikipedia does be become a repository of transient information of no lasting impact.


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